2013 KTM Adventure 1190 - Page 82

Narsisco Lopez · 10-09-2012, 04:30 PM

It's like watching a debate on religion.

sideup · 10-09-2012, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crofrog

If low pipes are so bad...

I'm confused...

Low Pipe + High Ground Clearance = Good
Low Pipe + Low Ground Clearance = Bad?

Compare the rear axle on both bikes, not even close.

ChR1s · 10-09-2012, 06:32 PM

And now, my browser shows no 1190 on the US website...

http://www.ktm.com/us/travel.html

YOGOI · 10-09-2012, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChR1s

And now, my browser shows no 1190 on the US website...

http://www.ktm.com/us/travel.html

Test riders crashed em all.

Chuckracer · 10-09-2012, 08:43 PM

This is one of them "Groundhog Day" threads, isn't it? Around and around and around the same block we go...

DesertSurfer · 10-09-2012, 09:23 PM

I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a new 1190, but that's because I'm way happy with my 950 S. But I'm surprised it took so long for KTM to come out with the 1190. It's the only way they can try to compete with the GS12 and the press that considers BMW so superior. The question isn't really would you keep your 990 or upgrade to the 1190. It's whether you'd buy a new GS12 or the new 1190. From that stand point I think everyone here would agree. And that's an answer we can all be proud of looking ahead. Once the 1190 has international success then they can start focusing on the micro niches we all fall under.

Let's hope the 1190 does really, really well and inspires KTM to develop a high tech mid-range Rally Replica Twin. I think that's something we can all agree on too.

Grinderman · 10-09-2012, 09:39 PM

Very well said Desertsurfer!!!!!

Sumi · 10-10-2012, 04:21 AM

Was this posted already?

"Why did KTM photoshop damage out of the 1190 Adventure photos?"

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...=Google+Reader

EdGear · 10-10-2012, 08:40 AM

I didn't look through the whole thread but the 1190 is up on the EU site

http://www.ktm.com/travel/1190-adven...l#.UHWWq7Rm7Gv

and the 1190 R
http://www.ktm.com/gb/travel/1190-ad...l#.UHWXV7Rm7Gs

YOGOI · 10-10-2012, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grinderman

very well said desertsurfer!!!!!

+2

Xtremjeepn · 10-10-2012, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sideup

Low Pipe + High Ground Clearance = Good
Low Pipe + Low Ground Clearance = Bad?

Compare the rear axle on both bikes, not even close.

Not exactly a fair comparison shot now is it

(highly modified bike completely stripped of its weight

)

crofrog · 10-10-2012, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sideup

Compare the rear axle on both bikes, not even close.

Considering the rear axle height is determined by tire and wheel size it looks identical to me...

At the end of the day getting that pipe down low is going to make the bike run cooler, the shock run cooler so it's less likely to fade, the rear brake line cooler, and the mass is going to be lower to let the bike handle better.

Xtremjeepn · 10-10-2012, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crofrog

Considering the rear axle height is determined by tire and wheel size it looks identical to me...

At the end of the day getting that pipe down low is going to make the bike run cooler, the shock run cooler so it's less likely to fade, the rear brake line cooler, and the mass is going to be lower to let the bike handle better.

Pretty sure he meant the rear axle relative to the bottom of the frame/engine/exhaust, not relative to the ground. Easy to see the ground clearance difference this way. Still a tainted look at it with a stripped down highly modified race bike.

Xtremjeepn · 10-10-2012, 10:04 AM

This is probably a better true comparison photo. Take piece of paper from the top of your screen and run the straight edge between the axles of both photos and you can clearly see how much more is hanging below the axle height on the 1190!

el queso · 10-10-2012, 10:06 AM

[QUOTE=ChR1s;19784145]And now, my browser shows no 1190 on the US website...[/QUOTE]

KTM USA read all the ADV threads and decided to ditch the 1190 and replace it with the 2014 950 ADV - with updated special extra high pipe mod.

10-09-2012, 04:30 PM	#1216
Narsisco Lopez Addlepated Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Golden (Showers), Colorado Oddometer: 2,074	It's like watching a debate on religion. __________________ FYYFF! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtpUv4VBDhA Bikes 2012 BMW K13S \| 2009 KTM 990 Adventure (SOLD!) \| 2003 Suzuki DRZ400E

10-09-2012, 06:32 PM	#1218
ChR1s Spherical Bastard Joined: Aug 2003 Location: Massachusetts Oddometer: 332	And now, my browser shows no 1190 on the US website... http://www.ktm.com/us/travel.html __________________ Chris

10-09-2012, 08:43 PM	#1220
Chuckracer More Ride, Less Google Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Lowville, NY Oddometer: 5,760	This is one of them "Groundhog Day" threads, isn't it? Around and around and around the same block we go... __________________ 2003 Kawasaki KLR650 "Reality" 1993 Ducati 900SS "L'evento"

10-09-2012, 09:23 PM	#1221
DesertSurfer Tail sprayin Joined: Feb 2009 Location: City of the Angels Oddometer: 848	Glad they made a change... I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a new 1190, but that's because I'm way happy with my 950 S. But I'm surprised it took so long for KTM to come out with the 1190. It's the only way they can try to compete with the GS12 and the press that considers BMW so superior. The question isn't really would you keep your 990 or upgrade to the 1190. It's whether you'd buy a new GS12 or the new 1190. From that stand point I think everyone here would agree. And that's an answer we can all be proud of looking ahead. Once the 1190 has international success then they can start focusing on the micro niches we all fall under. Let's hope the 1190 does really, really well and inspires KTM to develop a high tech mid-range Rally Replica Twin. I think that's something we can all agree on too. __________________ '"This whole memory lapse is gett'in to me. Hopefully I think I'll outgrow it."

10-10-2012, 04:21 AM	#1223
Sumi Beastly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2010 Location: Hungary Oddometer: 1,143	Was this posted already? "Why did KTM photoshop damage out of the 1190 Adventure photos?" http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...=Google+Reader __________________ 2005.5 950 Adventure

10-09-2012, 09:39 PM	#1222
Grinderman Adventurer Joined: May 2011 Location: Chico CA, wher the NUTS come from Oddometer: 64	Very well said Desertsurfer!!!!!

10-10-2012, 08:40 AM	#1224
EdGear Edventurer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Oddometer: 497	I didn't look through the whole thread but the 1190 is up on the EU site http://www.ktm.com/travel/1190-adven...l#.UHWWq7Rm7Gv and the 1190 R http://www.ktm.com/gb/travel/1190-ad...l#.UHWXV7Rm7Gs __________________ Get out and ride 2007 KTM 990 Adventure 2006 KTM 640 Adventure 2002 KTM 400/453 EXC

10-10-2012, 10:04 AM	#1229
Xtremjeepn Motorhead! Joined: May 2008 Location: SaddleRock, Colorado Oddometer: 1,375	This is probably a better true comparison photo. Take piece of paper from the top of your screen and run the straight edge between the axles of both photos and you can clearly see how much more is hanging below the axle height on the 1190! __________________ Cole Ford<----my iPad app ...and iPhone version .....Android Tablet version 06 KTM 950 Adventure(The Fainting Goat) 02 F650GS DAKAR 2 KLR650s Travel bikes http://coffeemotorcycleswine.blogspot.com/

10-10-2012, 10:06 AM	#1230
el queso toda su base Joined: Mar 2009 Location: colinas del norte, california sur Oddometer: 420	[QUOTE=ChR1s;19784145]And now, my browser shows no 1190 on the US website...[/QUOTE] KTM USA read all the ADV threads and decided to ditch the 1190 and replace it with the 2014 950 ADV - with updated special extra high pipe mod.

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