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Old 10-22-2012, 02:23 PM   #1471
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...The truth is, it doesnt have a RR fairing, graphics or saddle tanks. That is pretty much all that is "wrong" with it... Were it equipped like an RR, then there would be none of this clamor about "the perfect bike" would be occurring. There would just be ride reports, since everyone could finally go out and ride their precious 690RR, instead of dreaming that it is the only way to achieve a "one bike garage"
RR fairing, check
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graphics, check

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With it taking so little work and (relatively) money it's surprising that more people don't roll their own if they're serious about it.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:34 PM   #1472
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RR fairing, check
Extra gas capacity, check
graphics, check

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With it taking so little work and (relatively) money it's surprising that more people don't roll their own if they're serious about it.
Bitchin' . All it needs now is a little v-twin...




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Old 10-22-2012, 05:07 PM   #1473
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Secondly, the "magic" bike people seem to be clamoring for is already made - the 690 already is over 65 horsepower and weighs 315 or so. Having a twin cylinder is a false need and any perceived advantages are offset with other drawbacks. plus the room the second cylinder takes up is a good place to mount a frappe chino machine.
You are correct the 690 ticks all the boxes except the reliability one. The LC8 properly setup is very reliable. After 4 years and many attempts by forum members to make it (690) great we still see lots of reports of fueling, ECU and electrical issues. I got rid of mine and went to a heavier beast that I could count on. Look at Crankshaft and how much effort he is putting into making the bike what it should've been from the factory. I personally know guys who's 690's spent more time at the dealer or in their garage pulled apart than they have been ridden. At least one was almost brand new and sat all summer waiting for F/I issues to be resolved. The fairing and other bits are unnecessary in most cases.

All that said I'm getting close to trying to see if H2W will sell me mine back....
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:28 PM   #1474
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Bitchin' . All it needs now is a little v-twin...




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and a gear box that makes sense....
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:36 PM   #1475
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You are correct the 690 ticks all the boxes except the reliability one. The LC8 properly setup is very reliable. After 4 years and many attempts by forum members to make it (690) great we still see lots of reports of fueling, ECU and electrical issues. I got rid of mine and went to a heavier beast that I could count on. Look at Crankshaft and how much effort he is putting into making the bike what it should've been from the factory. I personally know guys who's 690's spent more time at the dealer or in their garage pulled apart than they have been ridden. At least one was almost brand new and sat all summer waiting for F/I issues to be resolved. The fairing and other bits are unnecessary in most cases.

All that said I'm getting close to trying to see if H2W will sell me mine back....
Roger that.
Many 690 owners feel that KTM has made us beta testers.
The fueling sucks and the fuel pump doesn't.
The first 8,000 were miles great with 3 CDR's.
The last year fuel pump and fueling issues have
reduced riding to local only.

I'll ride my 990 anywhere and do, but not the 690.
It would be nice to have a light well sorted V twin that could
be fitted to the 690 running gear.

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Old 10-22-2012, 08:32 PM   #1476
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Sweet bike. that rear rack is CRAZY!
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:04 AM   #1477
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Roger that.
Many 690 owners feel that KTM has made us beta testers.
The fueling sucks and the fuel pump doesn't.
The first 8,000 were miles great with 3 CDR's.
The last year fuel pump and fueling issues have
reduced riding to local only.

I'll ride my 990 anywhere and do, but not the 690.
It would be nice to have a light well sorted V twin that could
be fitted to the 690 running gear.

Max
The 690 not reliabel? You guys must be unlucky then. Why did KTM increase the service intervals if it wasnt reliabel?
My 690 has been rock solid. I've used it for touring, commuting, supermotard, gravelroads, single-track, motocross-track, off the track and snow.
GF's bike been used the same way. But she's not so aggresive to it :-)
Our rally's are like a sea of orange. Most of them 690's
The bike is troublefree.
This is also the reason why I want to order a 1190 now ( still saving up, but hoping). I'm not concerned about 1. Generation problems. The 690 proved to be reliable from the start. Evidence is all the people I know who ride one.
So don't believe the Internett trolls
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:22 AM   #1478
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How did a discussion about a cool new adventure touring bike turn into a thumper wannabe rally bike wienerfest?
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:58 AM   #1479
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How did a discussion about a cool new adventure touring bike turn into a thumper wannabe rally bike wienerfest?
Wannabe rally rider wieners
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:59 AM   #1480
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How did a discussion about a cool new adventure touring bike turn into a thumper wannabe rally bike wienerfest?
Probably because the Adventure started out as a Rally bike wannabe before KTM lost the plot.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:24 AM   #1481
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:37 AM   #1482
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Probably because the Adventure started out as a Rally bike wannabe before KTM lost the plot.
Yeah - that's it.

I take full responsibility for the train wreck this thread has become...

Back to the 1190! I'm sure it will make a great street-bike for lots of good people!


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Old 10-23-2012, 12:21 PM   #1483
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Yeah - that's it.

I take full responsibility for the train wreck this thread has become...

Back to the 1190! I'm sure it will make a great street-bike for lots of good people!


When I'm ready for a road bike, I may look at one. That or a used Buell Ulysses.

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Old 10-23-2012, 02:41 PM   #1484
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RR fairing, check
Extra gas capacity, check
graphics, check

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Awwwww yeah.....
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:44 PM   #1485
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INCREASED FUEL ECONOMY
Although substantially more powerful and equipped more comprehensively, the 1190 Adventure R consumes about 20 per cent less fuel than its equally heavy predecessor (230 kg fully tanked, despite a smaller fuel tank). Together with an impressive 23-litre tank capacity, the range is suitable for desert use.

LONG SERVICE INTERVAL
A unique mix of the highest quality components combined with a fully developed and reliable engine allows extremely long service intervals of 15,000 km.
So if they apply that same to a new 750-800cc v-twin Adventure bike but keep the chassis more offroad biased (think current 990 but even lighter yet), I'm in. I have no interest in more power (fun but usually goes unused, potential for higher insurance (due to engine size not hp rating) and, even though 20% better mileage than the old 990, think of mpg if the engine remained 999cc rather than around 1200). Take a good offroad biased chassis, 800cc with good power, long service intervals and EASY service, and good gas mileage (means better range and carrying less gas and weight).

I do love the new 1190 for what it is...which is yet another 1200cc Adventure Tourer with a purpose the same as all the rest in that catagory. I'm sure that will be good for sales, but it means we just lost a choice for something different, which was a lighter and more offroad capable big bike. I'll anxiously wait to see what they come up with in the 800cc class.
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