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Old 04-25-2012, 12:29 AM   #1
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Non-standard headlights, are they harder to see in daylight? My wife says in bright sunlight LEDs cannot be seen. I don't think I've seen a moto with an HID headlight. Cars with these lights are pretty commonplace, it seems it's a driver's headlight. I don't ride far or fast after dark, my concern is being visible during daylight hours. Remember the windjammer and how the headlight vibrated over pavement irregularities, really caught yer eye.

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Old 04-25-2012, 12:57 AM   #2
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Non-standard headlights, are they harder to see in daylight? My wife says in bright sunlight LEDs cannot be seen. I don't think I've seen a moto with an HID headlight.
It depends how bright the LED's are. Rigid Industries makes some nice bright ones:



(PS: those are illegal on public roads if there are other vehicles ahead of you, so not useful for what you want)
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:34 AM   #3
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One thing, most of the LEDs are pretty bright to be aimed directly forward in a horizontal poz.

Aim or tipped downward just a smidge, makes them quite visible in daylight, without being mistaken for the sun.

They actually serve you better at night as well if tipped down a bit to meet the road some point ahead of you.

I am still looking for some that last more than one year myself.




My bike is on the left below, you can see with the bike (and LEDS) shut down that they are tipped downward a bit.

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Old 04-25-2012, 01:40 AM   #4
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I am still looking for some that last more than one year myself.
Perhaps you should look up those rigid industries ones I mentioned just before. 50,000+ hours (that's almost 6 years of continuous use) and tough enough for rally raid and military use.
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:53 AM   #5
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Perhaps you should look up those rigid industries ones I mentioned just before. 50,000+ hours (that's almost 6 years of continuous use) and tough enough for rally raid and military use.

thanks, those lights from Rigid look like the clear choice!

https://www.rigidindustries.com/category-s/131.htm
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:13 AM   #6
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My wife says in bright sunlight LEDs cannot be seen... I don't ride far or fast after dark, my concern is being visible during daylight hours.
If you are expecting conspicuity lighting or neon power-ranger suits to make you safer because of visibility. In and of themselves, they won't. Those who don't see won't see you. Your best defense is to develop a Spidey-Sense and to have situational awareness Ride like you're invisible because visibility just slightly stacks the deck in your favor...
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:25 AM   #7
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Your best defense is to develop a Spidey-Sense and to have situational awareness Ride like you're invisible because visibility just slightly stacks the deck in your favor...

^^^ This ^^^

I would turn my headlight off if it were legal.
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Yeah, but us old guys gotta have something to ramble on about. At least it's got us out of the Killboy Thread...
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my road going trail bike has no lights and never got a problem and my road bike has its lights turned off til i need them. i find if you lights are on and you go over a bump a car my think you have flashed them and then pull out on you
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Non-standard headlights, are they harder to see in daylight? My wife says in bright sunlight LEDs cannot be seen. I don't think I've seen a moto with an HID headlight. Cars with these lights are pretty commonplace, it seems it's a driver's headlight. I don't ride far or fast after dark, my concern is being visible during daylight hours. Remember the windjammer and how the headlight vibrated over pavement irregularities, really caught yer eye.
Wait, are we talking LEDs or HIDs? There is a difference. That said, I have never seen a purely LED headlight, but I can see every type of light in daylight. The newer Audi cars have that little wave pattern of lights that are on all the time, those are LEDs, and I can see them just fine in full sunlight. HID's, yep, I can see those during the day as well. Of course, most of the HIDs that I see on during the day are on those trucks with 27 inch lifts being driven by a 16 year old .

That said, my little ex500 has pretty bad lights no matter what. I would love to have some extra light output.
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I maintain it's important to be visible to other drivers or invisible to them.
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