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Old 04-30-2012, 10:50 AM   #16
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A bike based on the 450x platform but with modern updates such as fi and a lighter package would be intriging.fi is the shiznit
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:05 AM   #17
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Honda needs to "plate" their 450X, end of story.
+1 but its never happening.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:20 AM   #18
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+1 but its never happening.
You never know, they may conclude that it's worth it to compete with KTM, Husky and Beta and grab some of the "serious" dual sport market share.

I'd buy one in a heart beat!
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:54 AM   #19
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Engine based on CBR250...

Test rode a CBR250 the other day... had to rev the snot out of it to make any power... don't see how this would make a very good "dirtbike with plates" bike at all. Upright commuter maybe.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:55 AM   #20
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You never know, they may conclude that it's worth it to compete with KTM, Husky and Beta and grab some of the "serious" dual sport market share.

I'd buy one in a heart beat!
I haven't had first hand experience with honda 4 stokes, but my 525 has gone the distance for me. That said there are a lot of baja teams running honda 450's and doing well. The reality of it all is that for honda (a really big company) the money put into making a 450 plated in CA is not economical. Not to mention that people are going to expect reliability out of a race bike, I knew full well that my 525 was going to cost more to own then a drz or an xr. The more likely thing to happen is that honda makes a 49 state bike like BMW first did with their 450. But I still want it to happen.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:32 PM   #21
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I doubt the CRF250L is aimed at the same market as the KTM, Husaberg, or even the Husky 250 dual sports. This bike isn't aimed at 95% of us.

I think the price mark is somewhere around $4000. That would make a good ol' lady bike or beginner bike. Something that could be beat to shit and keep on coming back for more.

The idea of a plated 450X isn't aimed at this market, either.

BTW, I don't believe manufacturers need to make 49 state street bikes anymore. CARB and the EPA standards have been on the same page since the 2010 model year bikes.

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Old 04-30-2012, 01:22 PM   #22
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I haven't had first hand experience with honda 4 stokes, but my 525 has gone the distance for me. That said there are a lot of baja teams running honda 450's and doing well. The reality of it all is that for honda (a really big company) the money put into making a 450 plated in CA is not economical. Not to mention that people are going to expect reliability out of a race bike, I knew full well that my 525 was going to cost more to own then a drz or an xr. The more likely thing to happen is that honda makes a 49 state bike like BMW first did with their 450. But I still want it to happen.
I've owned 2 KTMs and I won't be owning any more.

Thus, I'm left with Husky and Beta as serious dual sport brands; I like the Beta a lot, but the price point is steep, and the Husky is too funky for a dirt bike with that under seat fuel cell nonsense!

So, when I'm ready to buy a serious dual sport, I'll look for a plated 450X or WR450.

Didn't mean to detract from the thread, I'm sure this little bike will be a terrific and inexpensive starter/play bike.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:34 PM   #23
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Didn't mean to detract from the thread, I'm sure this little bike will be a terrific and inexpensive starter/play bike.
+1
It will make a great starter bike and will most likely have a low seat height for those vertically challenged.
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:32 PM   #24
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I like it and would consider buying it for my son or the wif, or as a second bike for me after I buy a VFR1200X.

The Big 4 are going after the biggest sector of the market, intentionally ignoring bikes for us FFs in the minority. The Big Red Pig is among the best selling bikes of all time, as much as its disrespected here. Also just smogging and street lighting a CRF450X or WR does not make a viable dual sport. Honda street bike buyers expect longer maintenance intervals and higher MTBF.

And that's the truth!
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:28 AM   #25
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1) The Big Red Pig is among the best selling bikes of all time, as much as its disrespected here.

2) Also just smogging and street lighting a CRF450X or WR does not make a viable dual sport. Honda street bike buyers expect longer maintenance intervals and higher MTBF.

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1) I own one and love it!

With just a few inexpensive mods, it's a capable dual sport, as long as one understands the bike's limitations!

2) True, but I'll be in the market for a serious dual sport next year, and would buy a street legal CRF450X in a heart beat, if such a factory standard bike was available!
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I'm sure this bike is aimed at the wr250r. And if Honda or Yamaha would get their heads out of their asses and build a street legal 450 out of thier existing models, ktm would go belly up.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:57 PM   #27
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I'm sure this bike is aimed at the wr250r. And if Honda or Yamaha would get their heads out of their asses and build a street legal 450 out of thier existing models, ktm would go belly up.
So, how do you REALLY feel about the Big 4 not producing a serious street legal 450+ dual sport bike?
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:41 AM   #28
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+1 but its never happening.
Maybe if the market is big enough for the supermoto and DS crowd?
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So, how do you REALLY feel about the Big 4 not producing a serious street legal 450+ dual sport bike?

im bummed because it forces me to buy a piece of shit KTM. or somebody elses used up japanese 450 with a plate
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:57 AM   #30
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im bummed because it forces me to buy a piece of shit KTM. or somebody elses used up japanese 450 with a plate
Agreed!

I would be a pig in slop if Honda Fing plated their CRF450X, which shouldn't be difficult to do since it's already green sticker legal!
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