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Old 02-23-2015, 11:05 AM   #1
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Eek OK, I went for a look see

I finally got the Boss convinced we should go and look at a GL1100 / Moturist outfit that's come up for sale locally.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-moto-sport-pr...ationFlag=true



Tacky in it's gold plated misery but under it all I see some potential in the nice bits it has. The mileage is 200k km or about 125k miles. Owned by an old French Canadian who, if I understand him correctly, bought the unit from member here Roger (Sidebike) at half that mileage. My French isn't great and his isn't either even my bilingual wife had a horrible time understanding what he was going on about. He rambled non stop and I'd do the oui, oui and nod when it felt appropriate.

The tour started with the sidecar and it's present passenger. He added some bracing around the windshield and some gold stuff at the bottom. He made sure to show me the center of the hubcap which is a reflector from the back of a bicycle.

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Who was immediately replaced with a more attractive monkey (Hi Honey)

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It has a nice top, very comfy seat and beautiful faux fur lining

[IMG] photo Sidecarplus020_zps36d7d127.jpg[/IMG]

There's an automotive battery in the trunk with a connector for jumper cables he says with a laugh are for the Harleys

[IMG] photo Sidecarplus018_zpsed8a9c6a.jpg[/IMG]

The mufflers seem to have some weird extensions welded onto them, the trailer hitch has been converted to carry two flags in the round fixtures with the black covers. EML wheel seems fine and crack free.

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He's added a nice gold carrier for a rotating red light for parade day

[IMG] photo Sidecarplus013_zps8a98b6ee.jpg[/IMG]

The LL's look good, no visible cracks in the rim, he's added some driving lights which actually work well. He used to be a body man and widened the stock front fender and did something to the rear portion of the sidecar fender, looks fine, also added a nice gold step for the monkey (not the stuffed one).

[IMG] photo Sidecarplus008_zpse8022a14.jpg[/IMG]

Everything shows age but nothing terrible, I'd dump the big fairing and go Standard like my 81 used to be.

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The sidecar mounts seem decent if not for the tacky gold paint

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In the back of the garage is a color matched tent trailer he used to pull around ... more labor on the poor old high mileage motor



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There's a spare motor, differential, 3 new square profile car tires and a bunch of other junk in the garage

[IMG] photo Sidecarplus032_zps21f95fd6.jpg[/IMG]

The fun starts when he goes to fire up the bike. The battery is low so he gets it on the charger, then opens the throttle to full and back six or seven times and hits the starter ... no go ... quite a few more times and it stutters and sputters till finally is running ... he revs it wildly to smooth it out while I'm getting very concerned and tell him to go easy. After a bunch of this it'll idle at high revs on the cruise control till I take charge and lower the idle speed to near normal.

There's smoke emanating from every orifice imaginable, top of the motor, the bottom of motor, out the rear end. The garage is full. The wife high tails it for the car. I'm getting nauseous. He shuts it off finally to my great relief and then tries to start again ... the starter just spins and won't catch. After 10 more attempts it catches and starts. Now there's a misfire from the left side

Can't post the video ....

A few more turn off's and starter spins later and I finally tell him OK, OK assez (enough) I'll call you tomorrow and beat it to the car myself, with the sounds of a spinning starter following me, smelling of exhaust fumes all the way home till I can have a shower.

And now you know the whole story.
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Old 02-23-2015, 11:55 AM   #2
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Old 02-23-2015, 12:16 PM   #3
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How hard is it to bring an old bike to the US from Quebec ?
Not me, but , maybe you?
His asking price is $4000 Canadian which with the exchange rate drops way down to $3181 US.
A little motor work , black, grey, or silver where the gold is and BAM!
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Old 02-23-2015, 12:54 PM   #4
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Lots of EML stuff there and the Moturist was a decent sidecar. I think there is a video of Roger spinning around on the rig on the HPSidecars site...maybe.
Ya might want to replace the timing belts...As I am sure you know you do not wan tto break one of them.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:01 PM   #5
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Well most bikes go the other direction so I'm not sure these dyas but back when I was going to sell my 77RS the border agents said I'd need to post a bond for the value of the bike and then it would have to pass emissions tests or prove it met US emissions at the time it was built or some such misery so I forgot about the whole thing.

The BIG question is ... and I really don't need another half finished project ... is it worth even thinking about? Is the end product worth the trouble. Way nicer Wings can be bought pretty cheaply and the car moved over. He says there's a spare starter somewhere. in the mess.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:04 PM   #6
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Lots of EML stuff there and the Moturist was a decent sidecar. I think there is a video of Roger spinning around on the rig on the HPSidecars site...maybe.
Ya might want to replace the timing belts...As I am sure you know you do not wan tto break one of them.
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Yeah, saw the video, nice spin the rig wasn't ridden to church on Sundays by a little old lady
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:17 PM   #7
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Like you say way too many nicer old Wings out there real reasonable. Get the rig cheap enough scrap the Wing and move it all over to a nice one. You need to take it apart anyway to get rid of that gold paint and check the mounts.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:35 PM   #8
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Anybody know if the mounts, rear wheel, LL forks etc from an 83 will fit an 84?

I think the 84 1200's are better, no?
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:44 PM   #9
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Anybody know if the mounts, wheels etc from an 83 will fit an 84?

I think the 84 1200's are better, no?
Pesonally I like the 1100's better. 1200s have integrated fairings and did have the stator issues. Just saying...either is fine.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:46 PM   #10
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Ah, so going naked will be more difficult with an 84?

Here's a decent looking 83 for $850 with half the mileage

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-moto-touring/...ationFlag=true
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I think the 1100s were better also.

Yes on the fairing, 1100 was naked and 1200 had the wiring and stuff integrated into it.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:51 PM   #12
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Thanks, that narrows the field down

The boss has tuned right out now I'm talking about this to her
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:41 PM   #13
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Allot of nice parts but allot of work also, 83 1100 where the last of the unfaired Wings and the best of the 1100s according to old time Honda wrench buddy.
Question for me would be could I get comfortable on a Wing, I had one and no I have really long legs and hate sitting all folded up and don't like the cruiser position legs out in front.
If he's pretty firm on his 4k CD I'd forget about it.DB

Is this the Dan Blather thread ?
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Old 02-24-2015, 06:41 AM   #14
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No it isn't, as you well know it's no fun blathering in your own thread
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Old 02-24-2015, 05:19 PM   #15
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This thing's heading in the right direction ...

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-street-cruise...ationFlag=true



with a nice seat from these guys



http://www.motorcycleseatsdirect.com...over-and-foam/
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