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Old 05-08-2012, 11:50 PM   #16
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:35 AM   #17
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:20 AM   #18
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mark444.... ya heard of that trick. it might work but I doubt it is any better than CO2, if at all. you would still have to have a pretty snug fit to begin with because the front valve has to have the core in it, and thats a pretty small hole to push air through.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:08 AM   #19
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Sounds like an excellent way to achieve tire equilibrium... meaning two flat tires.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:44 PM   #20
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Been meaning to try the ether/WD40 trick.... for those that don't know.... shoot ether into the tire & light it, it explodes & jumps right up on the rim. seen it on a video & seemed to work good.
I have done the ether (starting fluid) deal on my dump truck several times when I have had flats. Just give it a shot inside the tire and leave a trail coming out. Light the trail and it seats the bead.

It ain't the safest thing to do, but it does work. Always wondered what my insurance would do/say if I burned my truck up doing it???
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:28 AM   #21
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ya.... been thinking about that hose between tires thing. the reason I started using the rope trick is because I had a really hard time sealing up a tire once.... 40 gal tank with 150psi and still couldn't just blow it up.

Over the years I've watched tire mounts dozens of times in the shop where the guy throws a band around the tire & inflates the band to squeeze the beads up to where they will seal. I didn't have that & just used what was at hand. I'm sure I'm not the only one to think of this trick.

BTW, don't panic, the only time you might need it is if your tubeless tire is off the rim or the bead is broken.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:13 AM   #22
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A ratchet strap works well for that trick too. Done it many times on wheeler tires and truck tires.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:20 PM   #23
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A ratchet strap works well for that trick too. Done it many times on wheeler tires and truck tires.

+1, Also I have used 2 large CO2 cartridges to get 20+ psi on a rear GS tire.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:19 PM   #24
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All that discussion on tubeless tires kind of makes me glad I have tube type right now. I KNOW there are + - to both types though.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:27 PM   #25
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If your using the ether/starting fluid trick I would suggest standing back when you throw the match. Seems the wheel and tire sometimes get airborn as the fluid explodes. Did it alot with race car tires but always either used a chain to hold it down or put it under the lift in the shop. Not sure if a motorcycle tire would do the same as a car tire but then again its not my hand with the match or my chin leaning over the rim.

I'll bet Tom S has some good truck split rim stories.

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Old 05-11-2012, 01:09 AM   #26
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... I'll bet Tom S has some good truck split rim stories.
Dennis, you must have me confused with someone else. I know nothing about truck split rim wheels, and glad I don’t.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:12 PM   #27
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If your using the ether/starting fluid trick I would suggest standing back when you throw the match. Seems the wheel and tire sometimes get airborn as the fluid explodes. Did it alot with race car tires but always either used a chain to hold it down or put it under the lift in the shop. Not sure if a motorcycle tire would do the same as a car tire but then again its not my hand with the match or my chin leaning over the rim.

I'll bet Tom S has some good truck split rim stories.

Call me so I can come watch!
I have used the ether/starting fluid quite a few times on truck tires. It doesn't take that much.The tires have always been mounted on the truck. Judging from how well it works on truck tires......I would say it may work "too well" on motorcycle tires.

I changed lots of split rims as a kid working on a farm. While I have heard lots of stories of guys getting their head ripped of when they let loose......I or none of the folks I worked with never had any problems. We bolted several pieces of logging chain around the tire/rim and placed it ring side down on the floor when we aired em up.

Forklift/Towmotor tires can be wild too. If you ever see anyone taking a fork lift tire off by removing ALL the nuts.......run.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:43 PM   #28
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I worked in high school and college for a truck tire recapping and roadside assistance company. Saw hundreds of split rims inflated and only one came apart. It was a three piece rim and came apart in cage we used (sometimes); no one was hurt. It seemed everyone who worked in the shop knew a guy that saw a guy get hurt by a split rim, but no one ever saw it themselves.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:46 AM   #29
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Had a cantankerous scraper tire in Guam that wouldn't come OFF the rim. Called EOD and they applied a little gem called det-cord! VIOLA....tire off of rim. Anyone carrying any det-cord around? You could just throw it inside the bead, pop the detonator, and hope for the best!
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:33 AM   #30
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