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Old 10-22-2012, 11:40 AM   #316
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Great to meet you two at the HU meeting, I have been looking through your ride report and my 46 year old brain only clicked this morning when I went back to see what you guys were up too ... I hate gettin old

The funny thing is you looked so familiar but I didn't wonna make a dick of myself saying I know you

Really looking forward to catching up again soon
Kia ora, Andi and Ellen! Was nice meeting you guys as well and Ellen's presentation was fantastic!

We've got your blog bookmarked and we'll definitely meet up with you guys again on the road!

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Hi you two. love the pics. Good to see you both tenaciously frolicking away. Big ups to Ellen for enduring multiple offs and Andi for constant repair work. Very testing in many ways.Enjoying my regular fix of vicarious holidaying. Memories of good times in the National Parks elicited. It is a circuitous route indeed . I expected a more direct route from top to bottom for some reason. I also used to think DR's were reliable. Surprising what you learn! No bikes yet here. Hiding in the garage preparing the KTM for this years DBK1.Its still blowing a gale and snowing around the suburbs. Snowboarding in powder last Friday would you believe.

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Old 10-23-2012, 07:02 PM   #318
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Gotta sometimes for some reactions. Glad to see you back, pretty close to winter for us now, we need entertainement and pics.

Yes noticed the "improved" bungees altogether with the bats!

Not nice enough here to enjoy the last day of plates/insurances. So I do what I may be good at....

But looks like you may just be inspiring someone else to leave his precious K behind and cross the pond. May just keep me busy some in 2014....that's good!

Now what's up with them bikes? You know...the mechanics/solutions of things, always interesting for some of us.
Yeah the new bungies are MUCH better, the sun stuffed the other ones in 6 months.

Bumma bout your weather dude, is Richard wanting to do a RTWer?

Ellens bike went in for a clutch shaft seal, today was new K60 rear, new cush hub bearings, new rear wheel bearings, new GPS mount, new heated gripsand a starter motor redo.

My bike is back in for surgery at Clawsons here in Fresno.
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I'm sure glad your bikes Voodoo did not rub off when it was around my KTM...

Fantastic shots of Crater Lake, the conditions must have been perfect to get such fine pics... Keep it coming...
Heya Dave, hopefully no voodoo and to be honest I am really getting hacked of with the shite we are putting up with these ... getting frustrating and looking like we need to get a VISA extension for when my bike is in the shop.

Yeap we were very lucky with Crater lake, wish we had better camera gear with us but I am pretty happy with our pics
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Hi you two. love the pics. Good to see you both tenaciously frolicking away. Big ups to Ellen for enduring multiple offs and Andi for constant repair work. Very testing in many ways.Enjoying my regular fix of vicarious holidaying. Memories of good times in the National Parks elicited. It is a circuitous route indeed . I expected a more direct route from top to bottom for some reason. I also used to think DR's were reliable. Surprising what you learn! No bikes yet here. Hiding in the garage preparing the KTM for this years DBK1.Its still blowing a gale and snowing around the suburbs. Snowboarding in powder last Friday would you believe.
Heya Mark

Great to hear from you mate , Ellens riding is definitely better but not up to DB1k with full house and contents for a RTW trip.

Snow is late there for your guys!!, how is the Trumpet going?

Yeah our route is dictated by National parks, back roads etc, we have only had to suffer a few interstates which is cool.

Find out tomorrow what is happening with my DR, hope Clawsons can find the seat of the problem, will report back then with were we are at.
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Heya Dave, hopefully no voodoo and to be honest I am really getting hacked of with the shite we are putting up with these ... getting frustrating and looking like we need to get a VISA extension for when my bike is in the shop.

Yeap we were very lucky with Crater lake, wish we had better camera gear with us but I am pretty happy with our pics

I really feel for you with all the bike troubles you are both having, it's hard to focus on good times with the constant bugs that keep cropping up... Those bikes must be from the Friday afternoon holiday weekend production run... Let's hope this next time in the shop will fix them for the long run...
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Diamond Lake

We arrived at Diamond Lake by accident, we didn’t even know about it until we saw a road sign! ..... that looks OK so we will go there

Because it was getting cold and the Americans don’t go camping very much after October, most camping grounds are closing and the only one we found in the area before dark was the Diamond Lake camping ground which is our favourite campground.

This is our site, note autumn colours, me doing so electrical testing



David and Kathleens trailer



It was only 80 miles (144K) west of Crater Lake. The camping ground is huge -- half of it has closed, the other half, from the entry gate to where we set up our camp would be 3/4 mile. It has a hot shower, heated toilets, outside the camp (lucky it was at our end) about 500m away is a fishing village, a general store and lodge which offers free wifi.

Our neighbours David and Kathleen from south California were traveling in their big trailer. They picked up a Taiwanese girl Justine (20 something year old) who just finished working in the Glacier National Park now riding a push bike in America.

They camped in Diamond Lake for 3 days, did some fishing. Justine had never fished in her life, she caught the biggest trout among the three of them, talk about beginner’s luck.



We sat at the camp fire with them and exchanged traveling stories.



The next day, Ellen got up in the morning went for a run, she came back and we decided to stay for another day - It’s got every thing we need, why not! Then Kathleen invited us to their warm trailer (out side was -3 degree .... below zero!) for a coffee.

As the morning went, the sun came out, lots of people arriving for a fishing competition, the camping ground was filling up real quick. David and Kathleen decided to make a move. We said goodbyes and went for a walk along the lake ourselves. Of course, pictures will do the talking.

Beautiful autumn colours



Some moss on the trees





This is Mount Thielson, pretty coul!!



We came back to the camp later in the afternoon and the Ranger had come around telling people there would be 2 - 3 inches of rain in the next two days. It’s time to go...
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I really feel for you with all the bike troubles you are both having, it's hard to focus on good times with the constant bugs that keep cropping up... Those bikes must be from the Friday afternoon holiday weekend production run... Let's hope this next time in the shop will fix them for the long run...
Thanks for your kind words David, yeah wouldn't mind having a bit of a trouble free run, I do expect some mechanicals but not this early and not this much. X fingers for tomorrow mate, they need to find why the problem is there rather than just shoving a sticky plaster over it.
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Coquille To San Fran

Umpqua highway To Bandon

On packing up in the morning we headed along the Umpqua highway which was loaded with twisties and a neat ride, a quick stop in Roseburg for food and supplies and we hit the road to Bandon, we took a dodgy wee back road called Coos Bay Wagon Road which turned to shingle and a bit of mud and was beautiful with trees, river waterfalls and all, an excellent accidental choice.... no pics tho

3pm in the afternoon, we arrived a place called Coquille. It was sunny and warm, considering the forecast, we decided to call it quits early so we could take the advantage of the sun and dry the tent out before putting all our gear.

We had a few visitors come and chat to us who were interested in the bikes which was cool.



Were we set up camp was right next to blackberry bushes and they were choca with berries, Ellen and I scoffed ourselves silly ... we looked like a coupla kids in a candy shop.



The berries were perfect and beautifully flavoured, after tea (dinner) we walked into town to get some yoghurt for breaky so we could have blackberries with yoghurt.

The walk into town and back proved to be a heap of fun and really interesting, we stopped into a second hand shop could have been anywhere in New Zealand.

There is a big mural on a wall too, very well done.



I stopped to pat the horses .... their hair was hard than our horses in New Zealand



On returning to camp we had a visit from Mr.Plod, just checkin us out, once he established who we were he said he would come back and keep an eye out for us, that was really neat.

In the morning Mr.Plod’s offsider came over and said gidday too, very cool of them to look out for us.

I also spotted two leafs suspended from a strand of spiderman wire ... I would hate to see the big mofo spider that spun it!!



Magic



We managed to pack up in the dry but with ominous clouds watching down on us closely, the road to Bandon was a nice back road and mum nature did give a wee shower or two.

We carried on down 101 to Golden Beach where we had lunch at a romantic toilet block, it was miserable and wet, we both layered up one extra as the fog and rain was chilly, our mission was to get down to the drive thru tree which we did.

At that point our day took a huge change when we met up with Craig and Sharon from Oz on a KTM990 Adventure who had travelled throughout all Europe, the Stans, Russia etc so were a wealth of info.





We had a chat and decided to set up camp together which turned out to be very beneficial as the campsite inside the Redwood National Park was $35.00 fookin dollars ...hmmmm.



After trying to get to a closed camp we backtracked five miles where we set up, great chats, food and travel stories were talked, everything cool about adventure travel!!!

Before we all set off the big Redwoods were calling, stunning autumn colours.





And of course another big f#$*^@g tree



The following day we left our own ways knowing we would hold them up, we also knew we would catch them again at the HU meeting in Cambria.

In the morning we set of for the “Avenue Of Giants” (nothing new for Ellen and I cos bein short everything is giant), this was a nice deviation from 101 heading south to 1.

The is "The Immortal Tree" which has withstood floods of epic proportions, monster fires, the human axe and asian eyes .... note the fish up the tree was the flood line



We did the touristy thing .... both of us





Highway 1 was recommended and calling our name, the road was tight, twisty and beautiful and comes highly recommended.... no gravel tho.

Camp was beside the sea at a place called Westport and we had about an hour before the sun went down so a walk along the beach was in order... here is a pic of my bum!!!



The beach, first beach side camping we had done on our trip



This is also where we met John and Rebecca, we had passed them twice earlier in the day, twice they pulled over in pullouts to let us past.

Ellen and I saw them at camp setting up so being appreciative motorcyclists we went over and said hey thanks for letting us go past safely earlier .... and it all went from there.

With the ice broken from their good natured driving earlier and our thanks it was easy to make new friends, chats were had around the camp fire (again) Rebecca kindly took care of the smoke which followed her all night ... onya chick!!

Turns out they live and work on the road in their fifth wheeler and the setup they had was mint.



Later that evening another ADVer pulled into camp, we had a quick chat and offered to halve our camp as we had the only flat bit of grass and with the cost it was sensible to share too.

Fog rolled in thick and fast and was heavily laden with moisture, our tent in the morning looked like it had been through a rain storm, everything was damp.



Justin (the ADVer) insisted on paying for our camp too to help our budget (we still owe you that coffee Justin....come to Ushuaia to get it), very nice indeed, Justin was also heading to the HU meeting as well via a different route to us.

Heading off with our soggy tent under wraps San Fran was our destination to catch up with Spidey (Warren) and his good lady Chris.

1 was clear further down after riding in pea soup for an hour or so, I keep an eye out for Ellen all the time and she kept appearing then disappearing with differing thicknesses of soup in the air.

The last part was very windy pushing and shoving us all over the road which made it difficult, you either get no wind and fog or wind and a view ... take you pick of poison.

San Fran wasn’t too bad to get into with Mrs.Garmin sending us pretty directly with all avoidances disabled, the famous car chase streets providing some great stop start rider training for Ellen and making me keep my mind on the job.

Spideys house is on a step section so I made sure I was parked and ready for Ellen in case her landing didn’t work out, coming from the top down made it easier so no dramas there ... luckily cos we were both tired from fighting the wind earlier.

San Fran next.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:20 AM   #325
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Bike troubles .

So other than the problems with your bikes this really sounds like a fantastic trip.
The photos are phenomenal !
How many kilometers have ridden so far on these bikes ?
What do you estimate the weight of the load to be on them ?
Following your trip from here it doesn't seen like you two are abusing those bikes at all .
I think the DR has a good reputation for off the beaten path type touring , but I've no personal experience with them.
It's just crappy that you can't count on your bikes to be problem free.
You are clearly doing regular maintenance but still have to spend considerable time in the shop.
I suppose it's just the nature of adventure touring on motorcycles that you will have a part of your trip taken up with
bike repairs . Good luck and thank you for taking the time to do this great ride report.
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So other than the problems with your bikes this really sounds like a fantastic trip.
The photos are phenomenal !
How many kilometers have ridden so far on these bikes ?
What do you estimate the weight of the load to be on them ?
Following your trip from here it doesn't seen like you two are abusing those bikes at all .
I think the DR has a good reputation for off the beaten path type touring , but I've no personal experience with them.
It's just crappy that you can't count on your bikes to be problem free.
You are clearly doing regular maintenance but still have to spend considerable time in the shop.
I suppose it's just the nature of adventure touring on motorcycles that you will have a part of your trip taken up with
bike repairs . Good luck and thank you for taking the time to do this great ride report.
Heya Uncle

Yeah a bit disappointing to be honest, I have a DR650 in NZ and it has been rock solid to be fair hence our choice of machinery.

Today we be finding out the state of the play with Hobbit, will post up later on.

So to answer your questions, Ellens luggage weighs approx 35kg (77lbs) mine is about 40kg - 46 kg (88lbs) depending as I carry 6 litres of water each day so 6 kg (13lbs) and this gets drunk etc.,

Cory from Lelands Suzuki said we were to quote "Extremely excessively overloaded", given my bike would be the heavier of the two it is still 1/3 to less than 1/2 a passenger at worst so in my view he made himself look like a total dick.

Clawsons on the other hand said we are not anywhere near loaded for what they can take so there you have it.

We are traveling 80 % road and slower back roads, 17.65 % shingle roads and 2.45 % approx offroad (white rim etc.)

Oils are religiously changed at 3000 miles or prior if we have been in dusty conditions, air filters washed and re-oiled with engine oil replacement.

I am anal about chain tension being well aware of what a tight chain can do.

I like to think we are being the model maintainers also with the expectation that if we treat them well we will get mileage and reliability out of them ..... that would be great!

Anyway, hopefully this will see the end of our majors, I fully expect some issues for sure as it is mechanical.
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San Fran

Spelt it short cos I can’t remember how to spell it.

So, we arrived safe and well, bloke hugs and chick hugs were had, very welcoming.

Bikes were rolled into the dark corner of the shed so as not to bring the neighbourhood down with Two Dodgy Kiwis yello terras.

Showers were in order, washing done, wine consumed and big catchups about life.

Warren and Chris had two new additions to their family since we were last there, Ziv their daughter is 4 and Nadav who was about to turn 2 years old the day after we left.

Ziv, the boss!!



Chris and Nadav,



The last time we caught up with Warren and Chris was 2007 after World Ducati Week so big changes since then for them, well done guys, we look forward to seeing you again.

Warren had some time off work which was mint so we went out and did the blokes thing of hovering around motorcycle shops looking at everything we couldn’t afford ... it was fun, we were treated to a cafe racer that started its life as a but ugly Suzuki 650 Intruder, this thing put a capital G on Groovy!!!





Also spotted ... NEVER leave home without your camera



My Phone

Earlier in the piece (coupla weeks back) my Sonim phone had a wee woops, I contacted Sonim asking to get it fixed, they sent back the form saying no problem, just need proof of purchase and the usual stuff ..... ouwh no, my proof of purchase is 10000 miles away in NZ !!!

I wrote back saying any chance we can bend the rules being we are RTW bikers and don’t have my proof of purchase with me, I also added I would welcome their inspection to verify it had not been badly treated/abused etc.

Sonim customer service rang back and gave me three names, a phone number and an address to go to just out of San Fran, we contacted them and headed to the address as it was only 20 minutes away.

Large glass fronted building looking down on us is what we arrived at, we had been sent to Sonims Corporate Office .... ok.....lets go in.

Warren and I were introduced to Christoph who said sorry about the trouble with your phone, he looked at it and said hang on I will be back in a minute, he returned with a new 3300 phone and gave it to me ...... hmmmm.

My morning started out as how to get my phone repaired to here is a new one and sorry for the inconvenience, also the 3300 was a slight upgrade on my XP3.2 Quest Pro, these guys took customer service to a new level, thank you Sonim.

Given the above this is a shameless plug for guys who steeped out of the daily system to help a stranger in need. If you guys are looking for an adventure biker style phone take a good look at Sonim, up to 24 hours talk time and 800 hours standby time (over a month on standby!!).



It has LED torch and waterproof as well as many other features that make this a damn good phone for adventure biking communication.

Thank you Sonim!!!, find them here.

http://www.sonimtech.com/products/xp3300force.php

Or their home page with plenty of other goodies to choose from

http://www.sonimtech.com/products/

Warren and I headed to In and Out as my treat for him running me down to Sonims office then back home to make sure Ellen hadn’t bought too much on the net, the afternoon was simply stunning so we made the most of it going up to twin peaks tower lookout point over San Fran.

Some views from the top, famous San Fran Golden Gate Bridge



Alcatraz (Spanish for Pelican)



San Fran central, looking down Market Street



Mumblings of a coffee echoed amongst the crew so we found ourselves sitting outside Martha & Bros which Warren recommended ... and he was right.



After that we headed home for a B B Q and wine, talk about living it up and a good evening was had by all.





View from their kitchen



The following morning we hit the exit button and back to reality, destination Cambria to the Horizons Unlimited Travelers meeting ... Yay!!!

We headed down 101 along the seaside then turned inland to pick up 9 and down through twisties and trees, outstanding bit of road I must say.

When 9 finished we carried on down on 1 again, would have to add at this point we believe (some) Californian drivers take the cake for being the most arrogant, selfish and disrespectful drivers we have ever encountered doing 28 mph in a 55 mph zone passing pullout after pullout and sign after sign saying slower drivers use pullouts and holding up lines of traffic at least 30 cars plus that we could see ..... WTF ... CHP need to deal with these people.

Back to the usual program now, Cambria was in our sights and we were happy to get off the road.

Arriving at Cambria we took a wrong turn, Ellen tried doing a U turn and failed laying Chiwi down for a rest.

We registered and got setup, we were in heaven, surrounded by motorcycle travelers from around the world.

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Horizons Unlimited Cambria Meeting

So much to do and see, so many people to talk to and so much information to be gained .... overload head syndrome to start with but we settled in nicely and started going to presentations, absolutely mint!!







Both Ellen and I were presenters too, Ellens presentation was “The stuff no one wants to talk about”, Ellen had the crowd of 70 - 80 people in roars of laughter talking about our scraps on the Denali Highway and White Rim Trail, I was up the front watching many other couples nodding and acknowledging the same sort of difficulties we had encountered in our new normal life which is not ALL beer and skittles.



It was nice to know that Ellen and I had encountered similar difficulties to others and that we were not alone, the key thing is we are now stronger for using it as a learning experience and recoginzing that if no one dies then the rest of material damage can be solved and sorted out and the main thing is to learn and move up a rung on the ladder rather than fall off and throw it all away.

Many other presentations we went to were very informative and great so for us it was extremely worth while and great fun, we also met other travelers heading to South America on pretty much similar time tables as us, we will undoubtedly cross paths and we be support crew, help etc along the way when needed, nice to have familiar faces.

My presentation was DR650 setup keeping it narrow and setting up for longitudinally challenged humans, this was a great success sharing our information with others, as I hate public speaking I kept it low key and more interactive with our bikes being that people could sit on them etc, this worked very well.





After three days of presentations, meeting great people, talking bikes, travel, destinations it was time to leave, destination Fresno to do a LOT of bike work.

We packed up and were pretty much the last to leave after getting photos with various people, some famous, some just like us.

Famous people .... Ted Simon ... not us!!!



Dr. Frazier



Grant and Susan Johnson, Hubb Mum and Dad!!!



A HUGE thanks to Grant and Susan Johnson and ALL the helpers plus all the presenters who really make the event, we came away buzzing and not wanting to leave, something that seems to happen quite a bit when traveling..

Here are some general pics of people and bikes

Iain and Debs in their sidecar



Ellen in a Ural



Ellens dream bike with a MTB!!



Another international traveler



An owl



Sun going down through the trees



Finally, Iain and Debs, Craig and Sharon, Will English and us

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Old 10-24-2012, 05:36 PM   #329
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Thanks for the next installment! I noticed your absence and figured you were having too much fun.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:46 PM   #330
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Swamped with pics!

Andi anal about chain maintenance ????.....! Is that why someone did not make it into the pic in Kalispell.Funny, I almost asked that back then when I saw the pic here! But, back then,he did not seem to want to be in that pic but I tought I caught him anyway...! After the lecture...!There may still be a tiny bit of DR "special" chain lube on my boots, don't think I cleaned them ever since....!

Not sure about Richard and a RTW, maybe more Canada/US.....fine by me,I should be retired by then and you guys may still be on the road.

Watch them bungees, I see them black ones on the road quite often. Should have shown you a very acceptable substitute in Neon green....cheap at the Dollar Store or was it Dollarama ????

No "hood latches" at Harbor Freight, I checked already. But Princess Auto in Canada does have some, just a little chilly these days to go there.Yep is was white up there yesterday...!
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