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Old 06-13-2014, 06:28 PM   #1
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to upgrade or not upgrade

So its been a bad year already for the gps and the bike... but this is a gps thread..

last fall, the mount to my zumo550 failed and finally rattled apart after a few years. over the winter i ordered a brand new mount for it.. great, so this year swap the mount and head out on a 3 day rally. Well, after the first day, i pull a bit of a wheelie and the gps slams something in my pocket. now its stuck, unusable.... So pay the money to send it in to get it repaired... So guess what, unrepairable and they send me a brand new one... and a one year warranty....

So now I have a brand new, old gps... sell it and up grade or keep and run it?

but it doesn't do tracks... if i do keep it...
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:48 PM   #2
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C'mon Sean, don't cheap out on us. You know you want a whizbang gps.
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:16 PM   #3
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C'mon Sean, don't cheap out on us. You know you want a whizbang gps.
ok whats the zumo worth? brand new year warranty...

read your thread on the montana, seems like the unit to get...
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:23 PM   #4
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ok whats the zumo worth? brand new year warranty...

read your thread on the montana, seems like the unit to get...
I have no real idea of its worth but there is another Zumo 550 in Ottawa, on Kijiji for $395. And Bitcoin accepted too.

I tend to underprice things a little just to get on with selling them.

And you won't have any argument from me about the Montana. It's still the best, as far as I'm concerned, though there are some new Zumos (590? 390?) which seem to show promise.
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:26 PM   #5
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Did you know GPSCity gives discounts to inmates? Check their thread in Vendors.
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no i didn't know that....

i don't understand the coupon thing yet... 15%? or is that just ram stuff?
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no i didn't know that....

i don't understand the coupon thing yet... 15%? or is that just ram stuff?
Dunno, I haven't bought anything yet. People are getting discounts on Montanas and Zumos, but I have not really been paying attention. PM GPSCity for more info.
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does the zumo 590lm load tracks or is it like the 550? and tries to reroute you?
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does the zumo 590lm load tracks or is it like the 550? and tries to reroute you?
No idea, Garmin chose not to send me one for free.

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Old 06-15-2014, 08:42 AM   #10
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Yes, the zumo590LM has a Tracks App and can import up to 100 Tracks, each with up to 15,000pts. You can Show On Map up to 15 of those. You can also convert a Track to a Trip (Route) and it is a very reliable conversion.

Sorry to barge in on a Canadian conversation...eh!
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Right now I'm flipping between the Montana and the 590lm.
Using Tracks are huge to my riding. Leaving the go pro behind would be nice. Having media/phone in the headset would also be nice as the 550 does the phone but not tracks.

Barging in on a non knowing conversation is wanted. Besides canucks are the nicest people in the world. ..eh!

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I don't think you will want to trade the GoPro for the Montana's camera if that was the implication--video quality is rather poor on the Montana.

I also use Tracks a lot but using them concurrently with a Route is the best of both worlds and the zumo590LM does this as good as any Garmin GPS. The Black line is the original Track and the Magenta line is the converted Route which you can navigate and it will provide the usual Nav Info: Dist-to-Dest, etc.



I also like the Montana (still have one) and it has very good Track Management but the zumo590LM's is better as Tracks are arranged in Alphabetical order not by proximity. As you can probably tell, I prefer the zumo over the Montana. Unless of course you need the specific features that the Montana provides: battery options, ABC.
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it seems between drtybyk and emmbeedee... you two could go on about the features and benefits regarding the Montana and the 590lm.. and I'll just read and ask questions from time to time......



using the 590 tracks converted to trips(route) does the gps try to reroute you on roads and highways?

when you load a track is it navigable? I made it to page 11 or so of 26 reading about the 590. What is the concern regarding poi's or weigh points not showing on the screen? when your stopped?
kind of important having foot notes off roading riding...
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it seems between drtybyk and emmbeedee... you two could go on about the features and benefits regarding the Montana and the 590lm.. and I'll just read and ask questions from time to time......



using the 590 tracks converted to trips(route) does the gps try to reroute you on roads and highways?

when you load a track is it navigable? I made it to page 11 or so of 26 reading about the 590. What is the concern regarding poi's or weigh points not showing on the screen? when your stopped?
kind of important having foot notes off roading riding...
You show a track on the map. If you want to navigate (get travel data) you convert it to a Trip (route) and navigate the route. No, the zumo does not try to recalculate the route onto roads if the track isn't on a road. The Trip (route) is faithful to the original Track. If you are going to navigate a Trip that was created from a Track you need to set your Navigation Off-route Recalculation setting to OFF.

There currently is a condition on the 590 where Waypoints will not show on the map until you are moving. Footnotes? Maybe something lost in translation...eh?
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If you are going to navigate a Trip that was created from a Track you need to set your Navigation Off-route Recalculation setting to OFF.

There currently is a condition on the 590 where Waypoints will not show on the map until you are moving. Footnotes? Maybe something lost in translation...eh?
setting the gps to stop navigating is similar to the 550 when using tracks as routes, unfortunately the z550 will eventually try to re-route you using roads. then you stop, unload the track then reload the track to the z550 and carry on. until it does it again... gets tiresome. I am worried this will be a modern version of the same issue.

the footnotes statement was more about poi or weight points telling you to "get gas, go around, camp here" type stuff. if it doesn't show you when you NEED to make a decision... at times it could be a safety issue?

as much as the 590 intrigues me these are the things important me, when riding off the road. along with the media.

I really do appreciate your input here drtbyk and EBD.

Can the Montana route? I know it does all the track navigating well. curious about routing as adv riding is not just in the bush as we all know. I read Emmbeedee's report using the Montana creating different profiles as you use the device. Not having a Montana or 590 in my hand to experiment with, it is about reading and hopefully a good decision is created.

looking for the best of both worlds...
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