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Old 10-20-2012, 07:36 PM   #136
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Does anyone with a 2012 690 have the problem my 08 had of the fan cowling placed against the radiator and therefore slowly wearing through the radiator tubing?I sold mine due being fed up with its many problems but I am now considering a new 12 or 13 model if the main problems are fixed [false neutral between 5th and 6th,1st gear too high 6th gear too low,fan cowling problem] It also had many other problems which I fixed.
The radiator problem was pathetic,mine holed its radiator ruining my Cape York trip when a electrical plug was ziptied by the factory against the radiator and wore through after 3000 klms and then when stripped down for repair it was noted that the fan cowling was also wearing through and it would only of been a matter of time before it too wore a hole.
I am annoyed at KTM for their poor design of this bike but as we know it has an amazing power to weight ratio compared to anything else out there for adventure riding.
I am not a KTM basher as I still own my beloved bulletproof 2004 525 and have owned a 2007 990 Adventure, so how about it guys is the revamped 690 have its radiator cowling and false netural sorted?
I get false nuetrals, but I am pretty sure it's me. I am not as deliberate with the shifter sometimes in my boots. But no question about it, the 950/990 has one of the slickest tranny's there it. My 690 takes a more positive shifting style.

Cant speak to the radiator issues.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:06 PM   #137
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false neutrals are still there - but the bike is the Ducks guts so you put up with things like that
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:53 PM   #138
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false neutrals are still there
Occasional but nothing too abnormal compared to other KTM's in my past. Can't speak of the rad fan - non issue so far.
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:47 PM   #139
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Occasional but nothing too abnormal compared to other KTM's in my past. Can't speak of the rad fan - non issue so far.
I was stating they were there not asking - so then , I have never owned a honda with false neutrals so if its a KTM thing that has been there for previous models why havnt they fixed it ? head up there ar--s ?
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:56 PM   #140
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I was stating they were there not asking - so then , I have never owned a honda with false neutrals so if its a KTM thing that has been there for previous models why havnt they fixed it ? head up there ar--s ?
I'm not so sure - my 300EXC gearbox was excellent - never an issue. My previous 400 and 2 450's were very durable - but had the occasional false neutral issue - although nothing that hindered riding.
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:05 PM   #141
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I dont find it that bad either but it revs its tits of when it happens
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:19 PM   #142
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I dont find it that bad either but it revs its tits of when it happens
Yeah, not to mention the balls getting crushed
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:27 PM   #143
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Yeah, not to mention the balls getting crushed
Yeah you tend to move forward and when the bike doesn't

Whitehaven the bike is fantastic - give it time and get used to it and it will be the best bike you have ever owned - I love mine and when i ride my other bikes im thinking of the 690 wishing i was on it
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:40 PM   #144
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My 04 525 has a sweet gearbox as did my previous 07 990 it was my previous 08 690 that had the false neutral between 5th and 6th only.
A mate also has a 08 690 and his has the same problem between the same gears 5th and 6th,so if they have not fixed it 4 years later on the new revamped model then they need their backsides kicked.
Although I agree that it it something you can put up with I want to hear if the radiator problem has been addressed as I plan on travelling into the desert about 4,000 klm away from home and this is a potential problem you can NOT put up with.
It is a careless and pathetic design problem, so does it still exist?.
In fact you can not even tell if its happening until its too late unless you pull the radiator off and check for yourself which is a time consuming job you should not have to undergo.
The dealer put a sponge strip around my cowling rim when they fitted the new radiator but that was only a temporary fix and I lost confidence in the bike as I travel to remote places so I rid of it.
I am hoping this is fixed as the power ,light weight and handling of these bikes makes them the best for this type of riding.
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:50 PM   #145
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I have looked on numerous occasions {havnt taken radiator of tho } and no problems with the radiator / fan so far I have 12000 k's on the bike
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:41 PM   #146
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I have owned 22 bikes and the best dirt bike I have ever owned is my 04 525[since new] how many bikes can wheelstand in EVERY gear,it is the wildest thing I have ever ridden and has NEVER let me down that is why I will never sell it.
Nothing in my motorcycling life compares to the adrenaline rush of doing 6th gear 130 kph standup wheelies on this lightweight weapon.
My 08 690 had more power and it wheelstands in 4 gears but because it DID let me down and had numerous silly problems it comes second.
But I still rate the 690 as the best adventure bike out there.
Any way back to the radiator has it been addressed?
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:45 PM   #147
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Everybike i own can wheelstand in every gear - just not with me ridin them
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:57 PM   #148
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When I holed my radiator from the electrical connector I could not see it at all or the other problem of the cowling,it was not until the radiator was removed that BOTH problems were visible at the back of it.
Yamaha Tenere 660,Suzuki DR 650,Kawasaki 650 and Honda 650 do not interest me[boring power to weight ratios].
I need this fixed as the 690 is the only one that does and I am retiring in Jan and want to do many outback trips.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:31 AM   #149
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at around 10,500 miles . . .

I have put over ten thousand miles on my 2011 690 (er, 654) since I purchased it new over a year ago. I have noticed and changed a few items:

1. false neutral issues when casual shifting . . . lessens for approximately 1,000 miles post fluid change.
2. have always run on "rocket-ignition" setting (#2) -- I enjoy the responsiveness, and only changed it back briefly.
3. replaced end can for FMF 4.1 w/straight pipe + spark screen -- loud but love it/waaay lighter and added kick to motor.
4. Scotts dampner; the mount raised the bars which allows for a more relaxed cockpit.
5. Dubya in Orange, CA built rear 17x5" wheel coupled with Hiedenau K60 150 70 17 . . . the best mod so-far, hands down . . . *
6. tail tidy from hardparts catalog
7. return air hose connecting the airbox to emissions broke of the airbox and allowed dirt inside the airbox. . . **
8. head lights are dim (I'm being generous) and I've replaced bulbs twice -- stockers are cheap, like me, but upgraded 55 / 60 watt bulbs are available for around 50 bucks -- my first purchase during the next visit to the shop.
9. changed the gearing with the new rear 17" . . . 17 tooth front w stock 45 rear. . . works great, off road and on, no need for clutch work at all, even in the tight stuff.***
10. I havent changed out the stock plastic engine guard; it seems to work adequately but rattles like crazy over rocky terrain.
11. Sicass brand rear turn signals replaced the giant stockers that I kept knocking apart while lifting my short leg during mount/dismount.

The longest ride I have been on has been approximately 800 miles round trip. I usually see around 50 miles / gal . . . less if keeping up with crotch rockets on the twisties or during higher fwy speeds.

* I looked into purchasing an entire rear wheel but most aftermarket wheels don't have the cush rear hub to smoothe power and save the tranny. I had one built and was going with a 4 1/4, but was talked into a 5" at the last minute; I feared the lower profile would bring more flats, but hasn't occurred . . . I believe the carcasses of the 150 tires are thicker than 140's, also the spread-out tire has lasted from before 6,000 miles til now (almost 11 K) with maybe a couple thousand more on it . . . if I didn't want to roost on my family when we visit the desert after Thanksgiving I would leave it alone, but . . . lol

**this problem was falsely diagnosed as a failing throttle position sensor, which is much more expensive; the hose costed around 40 bucks and took about 5 minutes to swap.

***90 mph is about all that is comfortable for long periods; however, I took it up to 114 with a head wind .. . needs a windscreen or I need new neck muscles . . .

.I will add more as time goes on. This bike has exceeded my expectations in power and it's broad capability both on and off road, and always gets a nod of approval or look of jealousy.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:03 AM   #150
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I enquired with the dealer today as to the arrival of 2013 model and if any improvements have been made,he has been told jan or feb but the 13 will have fly by wire throttle!!!
Count me out, I will source a new 12 model do they really think this complicated crap is an improvement.
I would rather a 'old fashioned' cable than this gizmo setup especially when out in the desert days and 1000s klm away from home or a dealer,its a dirtbike not an aircraft.
I have not heard of any rad fan cowling issues on later models on this forum or elsewere so I have decided I will be joining the 690 powerhorse club again.
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