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Old 05-22-2012, 08:49 AM   #61
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To clarify what this thread is SUPPOSED to be about....

Let's hear stories about bikes you've had that were air or air/oil cooled that actually over overheated and let you down in some way/shape/form....that swayed you towards liquid cooling.

Thanks!
I went from an air cooled bike to water cooled and back to air by happenstance. The watercooled bike was nice, but the hot air vented out of the fairing right in front of my shins and would bake them on a hot day.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:56 AM   #62
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I like them both.

As long as it's got two wheels I almost always like it. Even, (and don't tell anyone this) Harleys.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:59 AM   #63
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I'd simply like to hear some stories about what bikes you've had that are responsible for converting you to....
THE WET SIDE!
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Anyway....tell us of YOUR air cooled horror stories, that led you to liquid cooled bikes.
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I for one, would like to know/better understand where some of my fellow inmates are coming from.
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PLEASE, NO L.C VS. AIR DEBATE...JUST STORIES!
My story's simple.

I wanted a fuel injected bike that had about 100 horsepower and weighed about 400 pounds.

Lo and behold, when I went shopping for one the only machines that met this criteria were liquid cooled. So I bought one, and have been very happy with it.

If there's an air-cooled option that I overlooked, please point me towards it.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:22 AM   #64
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My story's simple.

I wanted a fuel injected bike that had about 100 horsepower and weighed about 400 pounds.

Lo and behold, when I went shopping for one the only machines that met this criteria were liquid cooled. So I bought one, and have been very happy with it.

If there's an air-cooled option that I overlooked, please point me towards it.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:34 AM   #65
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I went to water because all the air cooled DS were out of my price range. First thing I got to do was change the the thermo and clean the fan switch- necessitating pouring out all the coolant and replacing it on the TDM. The thermo housing on mine was a bitch to get resealed correctly but works well now. If I had my druthers I would be riding an R80GS but those things are made out of Unobtainium or Gold or something....

That being said the TDM is great and runs like an ape being chased by a pack of ravenous rabid lions, but I do miss the simplicity of an air cooled.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:45 AM   #66
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Ducati Monster 1100 EVO: 99.93 HP and 416.7 lbs.
Buell Lightning and Thunderbolt. The 1200 models are 103 hp and under400 lbs dry.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:50 AM   #67
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I haven't owned a WET bike but my 08 ulysses heat is annoying. From the fuel boiling in the frame (that leads to a really smelly garage!), to extreme heat underseat in hot weather. The right side gets damn hot in 90deg weather either riding or stopped. I couldn't imagine riding in anything other than atgatt.

In concousion it has never left me stranded, or gone into skip spark because of heat.
Sounds like you need to ask your local dealer about the Comfort Kit.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:57 AM   #68
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Ducati Monster 1100 EVO: 99.93 HP and 416.7 lbs.
Fair enough, I wasn't even looking at V-twin bikes.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:37 PM   #69
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In answer to the OP, nothing ever. Nor have I ever had an L/C bike that I disliked for the cooling technology. On the few occasions I thought either system might overheat I have turned the motor off for a few minutes and let it cool.

But, FWIW, the Triumph Sprint RS I had recently would cut out at idle if it got too hot in stationary traffic and all the L/C bikes I have had would quickly get the fan working in such conditions.

No A/C bike I have had has ever given me problems with overheating. A couple of years ago I was in Naples on my current Yam 900 Diversion, 2-up with luggage in autum in temperatures of over 40degC. Even crawling up a congested mountain climb to Sorrento, it didn't complain; I doubt any L/C bike I have had would have been as accommodating.
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:45 AM   #70
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I have gotten well over 100,000 miles on several air cooled bikes without any engine work.
Never seen a liquid cooled bike go that far without coolant leaks, pump failures, or other cooling system maladies.
I have both liquid and air cooled bikes now, I much prefer air cooled, it's just one less thing to go wrong.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:16 PM   #71
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i have gotten well over 100,000 miles on several air cooled bikes without any engine work.
Never seen a liquid cooled bike go that far without coolant leaks, pump failures, or other cooling system maladies.
I have both liquid and air cooled bikes now, i much prefer air cooled, it's just one less thing to go wrong.

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Old 05-26-2012, 05:05 PM   #72
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I have gotten well over 100,000 miles on several air cooled bikes without any engine work.
Never seen a liquid cooled bike go that far without coolant leaks, pump failures, or other cooling system maladies.
I have both liquid and air cooled bikes now, I much prefer air cooled, it's just one less thing to go wrong.
Lot's of Vstroms, both 650's and 1000's over 100,000 miles with no hickups.
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:29 PM   #73
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Lot's of Vstroms, both 650's and 1000's over 100,000 miles with no hickups.
Perhaps the DL's are different, but a common (though not particularly bad) problem on the SV1k's was the 'oil-pump-driven-waterpump' seals failing, starting as a slow leak.

But i'm not against Air/oil cooled or watercooled. Perhaps the perfect solution would be a watercooled bike that should something happen to the watercooling system, parts can be removed and the engine run as an aircooled machine. Of course, suffering a bit of performance loss.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:54 AM   #74
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Never, ever, a problem on my air cooled Nighthawk 750 (albeit it has a small oil cooler). Runs cooler that my last 3 liquid cooled motorcycles. I suppose the fact that it produces 75-80 crank horsepower compared to 105-130 crank horsepower on my last three (big) liquid cooled bikes has something to do with it. I "went back" to a simpler motorcycle and have had no regrets.
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