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Old 02-25-2015, 07:34 PM   #1
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650 Thumper Enduro - KLR, or DR?

That's the question. If you were building a light weight dual sport rig, based on a 650 thumper, which one would you choose, and for what perceived strengths?
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:42 PM   #2
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Not owning either one, I would think the KLR would be more popular, with a little more aftermarket and watercooling. I don't think I have seen a picture of a DR with a sidecar.
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:24 PM   #3
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More power from the DR but slightly more aftermarket support for KLR.

KLR's are cheap enough, maybe the improvements and a 705 kit build a 17" front wheel for less trail and bigger tires, I think you can get an 8 gal tank for them.

This one maybe for sale here :http://www.sidecars.ca/#!gallery/c14cx
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:56 PM   #4
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Pretty sure Dirtdabber has had a couple KLR rigs. You could send him a PM. I met him at Nottarally last year and I was talking about putting a chair on my KLR .
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Old 02-25-2015, 09:11 PM   #5
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KLR , mostly because that's what I have. Through the years I've picked up 3-' 92 models for less than $3000 total.
When some warmer air moves in I'm going back to work on one , adding a DMC sub-frame I bought last year and modifying the mounts on a Dnepr utility hack. It should make a good farm "truck".
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Old 02-25-2015, 09:16 PM   #6
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Seeing a lotta votes for KLR right out of the gate. To tell the truth, I had been leaning towards the DR, and had the perception that they had stronger suspension and bigger fork diameter. Guess I should look that UP!
There are very large aftermarket tanks for both.
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Old 02-25-2015, 09:45 PM   #7
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That's the question. If you were building a light weight dual sport rig, based on a 650 thumper, which one would you choose, and for what perceived strengths?
Which one......Yamaha XT660R.....
Why ....... Because I have one...
Got as far as building the sub frame so far...
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Old 02-25-2015, 09:58 PM   #8
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Enduro? For serious? G650 X-Challenge. Bulletproof Rotax motor. Great front suspension. Fixable rear suspension. Good ergos. Pizzazz.

That's the real reason--pizzazz.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:30 PM   #9
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Here is my KLR rig after completion. A DMC sub frame, a late 60s Jawa sidecar frame and a Rubbermaid cargo box. I was told by a few that this would not make it very far. Jawa frame and axle to weak. When loaded to do its first trip, the CDR, it weighted 850lbs. Since this picture I have done the CDR, the Montana 1000, the Dino Run and part of the TAT. 6000 miles so far at a build cost of $5695, bike included. Not as nice in strong side winds and a little more weary to ride but nicer in tough terrain than my Ural. Both have about the same top speed 65 to 70 mph but the KLR gets about 15 mpg more than the Ural. The KLR has been a very good rig. It would be better with a 17" front wheel and a 705 kit, both of which are cheap.




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Old 02-26-2015, 02:08 AM   #10
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We've owned both, actually had 2 KLRs & 3 Drs.
Personally if I had to select one & nothing else came into the picture it would have to be the DR.
We have worked on both bike brands & that of many riding buds.
Both are easy enough to fix & to up grade.

However I found the DR to require less up grading to get where I wanted it.

On the road I enjoy the KLR more, took it across county twice w/o an issue, just upped a tooth & dropped 2 teeth when I got there.

Both have big bore kits out there. Never bothered w/ either but w/o a doubt it will wake up both bikes. The KLR enjoys a following much seen w/ our Ural inmates....

Both have had a few issues but the KLR has led here too.

Neither brand is that great when in the rough stuff but the DR will do better.
Both will take an unbelievable beating & even when ''used in a manner not intended''.

The DR just offers more for less, for me. Lighter, few more ponies & simpler.
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Old 02-26-2015, 06:29 AM   #11
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That's the question. If you were building a light weight dual sport rig, based on a 650 thumper, which one would you choose, and for what perceived strengths?
See the link in my sigline. LOVE my KLR rig, it's perfect for what I want (side roads/no interstate, plus 2 tracks and rotted out fire/logging roads).
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Old 02-26-2015, 06:34 AM   #12
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Very biased here, for me hands down DR 650. I've owned three so far and the current one is set up just the way I want it. Pro Cycle or Kinetech has tons of farkles but they're pretty darn good stock too. They can be built for dirt or road use but mine sees 90% dirt. A few mandatory items needed: seat, the stock one is a butt killer, NSU screws, either loctite or saftey wire.
I do a couple thousand mile dualsport trip on mine every year in the Rockies with lots of local mountain and desert riding in between and it never lets me down.
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Old 02-26-2015, 06:43 AM   #13
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Changing my allegiance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I have no dog in this fight but have now noted that the DR has a 17" rear wheel, so with it's bigger fork it cries out for someone to put an light chair on it and 17" front to reduce trail and offer a bigger steer tire.
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...650se%2000.htm
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:03 AM   #14
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We build about 50 KLR sub frames for every one DR, we also make leading links for the KLR but not the DR as there just is not much demand for DR stuff. I have owned several KLR sidecar rigs (and yes Drone, we also do the X challenge, we are finishing one up this week with an Enduro sidecar and leading link) As I just sold my current BMW F650 single rig once I have final payment I intend to replace it with a DR for a few reasons, one so I can answer this sort of question better, we can develop a leading link and as my brother just purchased one I want to better be able to help him with questions.
Another bike to consider, the BMW F650 GS singles are getting to be old enough that they are coming way down in price. The BMW is a much better road bike then the KLR however for off road I prefer the KLR mainly as I can never have any passion for it and as such tend to bang it up more and go more places then I would with the BMW.
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Old 02-26-2015, 09:14 AM   #15
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Enduro? For serious? G650 X-Challenge. Bulletproof Rotax motor. Great front suspension. Fixable rear suspension. Good ergos. Pizzazz.

That's the real reason--pizzazz.
Husky TR 650.

All the pizzazz none of the frailness and way less weirdness.
All steel frame & sub frame.
Small but usable size fuel tank, not a tea cup that fills on the car side (US)
Does not need $$$ in suspension work.
Even more power and smoother.
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