Historical Markers, Interpretive Signs

[Spirit_Rider]

[Spirit_Rider]

[mancunian]

from the derwent valley in the north of England, peak district

lest we forget

[SavannahCapt]

Just found this thread tonight and thought that I would make another "Lewis & Clark" entry

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[Mandello]

This the spot where Geronimo was captured (surrendered) for the last time. Heading east out of Bisbee AZ going to where I grew up in Columbus New Mexico.

[Craig McCurdy]

Monument at the North end of Wallowa Lake

[MrBob]

Originally Posted by SavannahCapt

"Lewis & Clark"

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There is some degree of controversy surrounding Lewis' death. Suicide, or murder? A few years ago an effort was made to exhume Lewis' body to examine his wounds but, so far, the Forest Service is refusing permission.

[Dorzok]

[LewisNClark]

The State of Tennessee is the holdup. 13 of the worlds leading pathologists, etc. have volunteered to examine the body but every time it is considered it is delayed. There was a convention of 50+ Lewis ancestors at a meeting last yr near his burial site partitioning Tenn. To be turned down again.

Pres Wm Jefferson Clinton (named after Thomas Jefferson, brains behind the L & C Expedition), an avid L & C fan tried to resolve the issue but Tennessee has fought it due, supposedly to the expense of another autophsy. Pres G. W. Bush, also persued it but again ran into hurdles with Tenn. Pres Bush, also L & C fan, did grant around $20 million to the bi-centennial L & C celebration in 2003.

There is an original letters archived that he attempted suicide in route to Grinder Inn, two weeks prior to his actual death...so it seems doubtful it was a murder, but a simple examination of the skeleton would probably solve the puzzle. I know one of the pathologist and he is insistent that his skeleton will still be intact after 208 yrs. Interesting that at his death here, Lewis had the irreplacable "Lewis and Clark Journals" in his saddlebags and at his death they were stolen. Two weeks the mysterious thief turned them in, apparently realizing their value. They were then sent on to Washington where Lewis was taking them...some think Seaman was with Lewis at Grinder Inn and was simply abandoned. Lewis' manservant (hired slave) was with him at Grinder Inn and later told Thomas Jefferson the details of his death but it was not well records.

I'm more puzzled as to know what happened to Seaman.

Originally Posted by MrBob

There is some degree of controversy surrounding Lewis' death. Suicide, or murder? A few years ago an effort was made to exhume Lewis' body to examine his wounds but, so far, the Forest Service is refusing permission.

Grinder Inn (replica) of where he was killed. The actual Inn is 50 yards behind the replica and the rock foundation of the original Grinder Inn is still there.

[MrBob]

Originally Posted by LewisNClark

The State of Tennessee is the holdup. 13 of the worlds leading pathologists, etc. have volunteered to examine the body but every time it is considered it is delayed. There was a convention of 50+ Lewis ancestors at a meeting last yr near his burial site partitioning Tenn. To be turned down again.

This is one of a number of articles naming the Feds as the barrier. I don't have a dog in this hunt but there does seem to be conflicting information on this issue.

http://www2.dailyprogress.com/news/c..._to-ar-319181/

[sfarson]

Fascinating posts everyone. While it isn't the same as RIDING there, nevertheless what a great virtual tour of historical places.

[Sod Buster]

[MrBob]

The founding of our country was not always a peaceful affair.

[Sod Buster]

Originally Posted by sfarson

Sod Buster, LewisNClark, montybones.... Excellent, excellent, excellent.

SB... Have never heard of the murderous Benders. Daaaaang. Recently visited Old Bent's Fort in La Junta, Colorado, which was located on the Santa Fe Trail. What a time.
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A little off subject but here is an episode of Wild West Tech dealing with the Benders.

[Sod Buster]