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Old 07-29-2013, 09:49 AM   #3586
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I wonder if Venus de Milo would be as famous with her arms...
she'd still be famous because of her booty:

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Old 07-29-2013, 10:19 AM   #3587
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she'd still be famous because of her booty:



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Old 07-29-2013, 10:34 AM   #3588
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I just got caught up on all the posts too. The first time this picture was posted I quickly looked at it and all I saw was the (2) nudes. On the responses people posted I noticed something else. It appears to me that just beyond these nudes in the red, it could be someone going down on another for a little box lunch. It could be just me but maybe this artist was including things in their art beyond the obvious. Maybe I have had to much Does anyone else see this.

That is the beautiful thing about art.......you see what you want to see.
And knowing you BBTGLG........it is no surprise that you would see this.
But it got me wondering so I did a little research and this is what I found and some others opinions about the meaning of the painting:


The curtain in the upper corners of the painting is the dress of the woman in the background. The skirts have been lifted, showing us her sexuality.

Note the painting above the mantle. It is of a nude figure whose head cannot be seen.

The two topless women are both looking at an individual in front of them. The woman on the right extends her left hand toward that unseen person. Look at that hand. She is beginning to form her hand into the same nipple pinching gesture. The two women are offering a threesome to the unseen person.

I can't quite see enough detail to see what the clothed woman is doing. As far as I can tell, she is either sewing, or reading a message written on a strip of cloth or paper. In either case, why is she doing it in the dark? She's sitting next to a firplace, but she has almost no light to work by. The darkness could suggest coldness, sadness, fear, isolation, or something else. I'm guessing it represents her desire for secrecy. She sits in the dark so that no one will see what she is doing.


the nipple-pinching signifies lactation. Pregnancy was a major career step for any royal mistress as it usually consolidated her position at court. It was just the sort of event that a mistress - or her lover - might want to use art to celebrate.

The curtains are definitely representative of a woman's dress. Notice how the left side is lifted magically, with no visible means of support. This is the artist thinking of himself as God, able to reach out and change reality, without being seen. And that structure that they're standing within is draped with a type of fabric that might be used for ladies' undergarments.

This is obviously a sequel to another painting, lost to history. In the first painting, the left side of the "curtain" is down, covering the entire left figure except for the arm. (Notice how the right side is properly tied back in place.) The viewer would assume that the unseen left figure is a man, testing the child-bearing abilities of his intended. (Notice that she is holding the ring, but not wearing it.) Then in this painting, the left curtain is magically pulled aside, revealing the gender of the figure on the left. Sort of the 16th century version of "We're here, we're queer!"


Now I want to go back and look at the painting again. I guess just think of it as 500 year old porn. And maybe it was Hugh Hefner's inspiration
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:33 AM   #3589
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I. heart. this thread.

I was pretty into it after catching up on the first 20 pages the last couple days. Now I realize I have about 220 more to go. I'm guessing it will take me/ sustain me for the next 12 months of my job, at which point I'll be pointing the bike South and punching the throttle in a similar fashion. Luckily, not much to sacrifice other than career advancement at 26 (and at a desk job, that's not a hard decision).

I love how you manage to blend dirt-bagging with a touch of class when necessary. Not an easy skill to acquire, but quite a great one to have and execute!

Enjoy! (and subscribed)
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:00 PM   #3590
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Lovin this Ride Report. Keep up the great work, I've learned more about wine from you than any other source. Also looking forward to commentary on the Belguim beers.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:01 PM   #3591
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I was pretty into it after catching up on the first 20 pages the last couple days. Now I realize I have about 220 more to go. I'm guessing it will take me/ sustain me for the next 12 months of my job, at which point I'll be pointing the bike South and punching the throttle in a similar fashion. Luckily, not much to sacrifice other than career advancement at 26 (and at a desk job, that's not a hard decision).

I love how you manage to blend dirt-bagging with a touch of class when necessary. Not an easy skill to acquire, but quite a great one to have and execute!

Enjoy! (and subscribed)

Yep, dirt begged it on a piss-smelling street in downtown Paris with the other bums and danced on the decks of a high-class cruise ship sailing around the Mediterranien Sea all in the same month.
A friend of mine wants to tag along with me for a week or so next month. I told him to bring his own tent because he is not sharing mine. But for him, camping is a 4 star hotel. And I think he is missing part of the fun and adventure. Some of my best nights have been in places I have camped. And I wouldn't trade most of those nights for 5 star hotel with four walls and a roof that hid the stars at night and the sun rise in the morning.
And for any adventure rider out there, you need to get used to something less than 4 stars because you might get let down one night and be miserable.
Find the beauty in the adversity and laughing it all off is the best way to be able to survive such a trip (even if you have a gold or platinum credit card
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:08 PM   #3592
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Lovin this Ride Report. Keep up the great work, I've learned more about wine from you than any other source. Also looking forward to commentary on the Belguim beers.
Thanks man
I will be in Belgium around the second week of August so if any of my friends there are listening, I want to do a major Abbey beer taste off to find the best beer in the world. And it might be a lot of fun in the process.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:18 PM   #3593
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my vacation

The cruise wasn't really a vacation.
We were getting up at 7 am every morning, running around all day and then staying up well past midnight every night.

And when I am on my moto, I am also going from sun up to sun down every day.
But here in Lima, I have no plans and no moto to distract me. It's 5 pm and Kathe and have not gone anywhere today.
And it's nice to have a break.

Last night was Peru's Independence day and I met the whole family.......mom, dad, grandma, grandpa, cousins, uncles, aunts, etc. I brought some good wine with me so that always makes people smile.

We are staying at her parents house here in Lima.

While it is nice to relax here, I am looking forward to getting back on the road to make new discoveries on my own. And put some adventure back in to this adventure ride
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:36 PM   #3594
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I just looked at my bank balance today. I am glad I am heading out of the wine regions soon.

flyingdutchman177 screwed with this post 07-30-2013 at 07:41 AM
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:37 AM   #3595
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People of the US, you don't know how lucky you have it.
Europe too.
I went to the store here in Lima to buy a bottle of wine. The market had a very nice selection of wine from all around the world. They had the 2005 LAN Grand Reserva. It was the same wine that I bought in Spain for about $15.
But the price here in Peru was $150 Solas. And that is about $55 USD.
And same holds true for just about anything imported. A $20,000 car in the US is $40,000 in Peru. And the people here are not all rolling in dough either so it would be very hard to enjoy a nice bottle of wine or drive a nice car.
I look at the US and it maybe the least expensive place to buy things.
Where it gets expensive in the US is the price of housing.
Here in Lima, you can rent a nice apartment with an ocean view for less than $1000 a minth. In the US, that same apartment would be 3 or 4 times as much.

And don't get me started on how bad the traffic is over here. And the way people drive, you would not want to drive a nice car even if you could afford one. There are no rules. Nobody stays in a lane or has a concept of what a lane is. And there is no respect for space and safety over here. Just lay on your horn and maneuver your car in to that impossibly small gap in the traffic and hit the gas because if you don't, you are not going anywhere.
I guess there are pros and cons to everything.
One the plus side, it is all but impossible to get a speeding ticket over here and even if you did, you can usually buy your way out of it.
So Lima is not perfect but neither is the US.
If I could just buy that beachhouse in Lima and move it to California and be able to drive like I can here in Lima but have everyone else follow the rules of the road like in the US, then that would be perfect. And the 2005 LAN Grand Reserva would be my everyday go to wine.........for $15.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:54 AM   #3596
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Our night out at the disco

We went to a trendy nightclub here in Lima over the weekend. Everyone was looking sharp. There are some sexy girls here in Peru. I think Peru is overlooked for that.....just saying
Kathe knew all the songs that they played. I didn't know any of them.
Drinks were weak and at $20 Solas each so it was not cheap. But Kathe got our name on the VIP list so we didn't have to pay the cover charge and we had access to the VIP level. It was incredibly crowded in the disco after 2 am. You could move without getting bumped.
But it was fun.
We left about 4 am and pretty much stayed in bed most of the next day. And could you blame me?





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Old 07-30-2013, 08:57 AM   #3597
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...So Lima is not perfect but neither is the US.
If I could just buy that beachhouse in Lima and move it to California...
you are missing one very big factor, the beach scenery. we do NOT have all of those lovely Peruvian curves here in Komifornia. so sure you could move the house, but it just wouldn't be the same.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:04 AM   #3598
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you are missing one very big factor, the beach scenery. we do NOT have all of those lovely Peruvian curves here in Komifornia. so sure you could move the house, but it just wouldn't be the same.

Have you ever driven PCH south of Carmel?????
Wait a second........what kind of "curves" are you talking about
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:57 AM   #3599
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Sometimes the world seems big like when I ride all day and only cover two inches on my map.
And sometimes the world seems small like this evening. I was standing in line for an ice cream cone at McDonalds here in Lima and the guy standing behind me is a mate I met on the beach in Labitos.
Also last night I met a gal in a bar. She is a 30 year old flight attendant and her name was Cathy. Those of you that know me will find that interesting because I dated a flight attendant named Cathy for 2 years. She broke my heart. And that Cathy was 20 years older.
And yes.........I will be seeing the new Cathy again when she returns from Miami

I was going back and reading some of my reports and found this post.
I didn't see this one coming. And now I am back in Peru. It is funny the twists and turns life takes.
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Old 07-30-2013, 01:03 PM   #3600
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People of the US, you don't know how lucky you have it.
Europe too.
I went to the store here in Lima to buy a bottle of wine. The market had a very nice selection of wine from all around the world. They had the 2005 LAN Grand Reserva. It was the same wine that I bought in Spain for about $15.
But the price here in Peru was $150 Solas. And that is about $55 USD.
And same holds true for just about anything imported. A $20,000 car in the US is $40,000 in Peru. And the people here are not all rolling in dough either so it would be very hard to enjoy a nice bottle of wine or drive a nice car.
I look at the US and it maybe the least expensive place to buy things.
Where it gets expensive in the US is the price of housing.
Here in Lima, you can rent a nice apartment with an ocean view for less than $1000 a minth. In the US, that same apartment would be 3 or 4 times as much.

And don't get me started on how bad the traffic is over here. And the way people drive, you would not want to drive a nice car even if you could afford one. There are no rules. Nobody stays in a lane or has a concept of what a lane is. And there is no respect for space and safety over here. Just lay on your horn and maneuver your car in to that impossibly small gap in the traffic and hit the gas because if you don't, you are not going anywhere.
I guess there are pros and cons to everything.
One the plus side, it is all but impossible to get a speeding ticket over here and even if you did, you can usually buy your way out of it.
So Lima is not perfect but neither is the US.
If I could just buy that beachhouse in Lima and move it to California and be able to drive like I can here in Lima but have everyone else follow the rules of the road like in the US, then that would be perfect. And the 2005 LAN Grand Reserva would be my everyday go to wine.........for $15.
Love it. Keep on rolling.
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