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Old 06-21-2012, 01:35 PM   #1
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How to make a KLR 650 more roadworthy on a budget?

I own a 1997 KLR 650 which will be my youngest son do it all bike in a few months when he is old enough to get his license. My son has been riding dirt roads and trails for over four years, competing on enduro races, so even though he is not new to motorcycles he is new to the tarmac. I have taken him to riding lessons and he even did a trackday on a F800GS, this bike belongs to one of his older brothers.

After the long intro let me ask you guys what would you do to make the KLR more road worthy with a budget of $1,000? I'm not going cheap on him but he already owns two dirt bikes so his "allowance" has been spent on those bikes.

I ride the KLR almost daily and find that the bike DIVES hard under braking, rear shock needs to be replaced too I would guess. Tyres are taken care of as I have a set ok Anakees waiting for him, running more dirt oriented Dunlops at the time. Crash bars already on the bike, auxiliary lights for conspicuity already installed, handguards and Givi top case. Air horn already purchased but waiting to be installed, I consider a loud horn a must so I bought the loudest Nautilius I could afford. I'm going cheap on the windscreen with a homemade hack. Oh, and he already owns all the safety gear I can strap on him, both for off and on road.

Rides will be family group at a moderate pace in the twisties, notbthat the KLR can be riden at anything but moderate pace LOL!

Any advise is welcomed! Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:40 PM   #2
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How bout some new fork springs correct for his weight?. New rear shock

Intiminators ^

Fork Brace

SS Front Brake line.

Tank Bag

That should about cover your budget
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:48 PM   #3
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Thanks for the input

Yup, thought about the items you mentioned. Any specific advice on what brand/models you could recomend?

And forgot to mention the bike already has a tankbag and a nice little bag that attaches to the handlebar, convenient to store celphone, wallet, keys and any other small items one shouldn't carry inside the pants pockets while riding.

Thanks for the input!
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:15 PM   #4
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16th front sprocket, lower rpms for road use.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:25 PM   #5
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Will look into it

I'll look into that idea and will chek that website.

Thanks!
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:14 PM   #6
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Did you armor the wiring harness yet?

That mod is almost free, and keeps one from walking home in the event the wiring harness fails....

Get three different sizes of the plastic wire split sleeve stuff, keep it in place with zip ties and or hockey stick or baseball bat tape. Seems to hold better than elec. tape.

Even the small bundles of 1-3 wires that run up to the backs of the gauges can fail from simply rubbing on plastic.

Ask me how I know...

In the end, from pulling the tank, fairing and plastics, you will know the bike well, and know that at least those bolts and fasteners have been checked recently and blue-loctited.

Also, consider a sealed, no maint. glass mat DEKA battery that is not going to boil dry like the stock batt. is prone to. Also does not need to be vented, and can be tipped, etc., no acid will spill....

Best 79$ i ever spent, mine two years old and running strong. Link is for source with FREE SHIPPING too:

http://www.etx15l.com/
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:03 PM   #7
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Besides the braided steel front brake line (already suggested), the oversize EBC front brake rotor is highly recommended. I'd vote for Galfer green brake pads, for their kindness to the rotor, although OEM pads stop well, and perhaps out-mile the Galfer greens.

While additional stopping power is theoretically available from the larger rotor, its main advantage seems, in my experience, the additional modulation and control of braking intensity available, including faster response (no "squish" with the braided line).

These brake upgrades will make the bike definitely more roadworthy and safer for your son, IMHO.


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Old 06-21-2012, 04:25 PM   #8
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I'm actually happy with the stoping ability of my 2009 KLR, I understand they made some changes.

I do see the original post was in regard to a first gen.

That's good to know about the improvements realized from the braided line and those brake pads mentioned... I am going to look at those improvement-mods for my 2009 at some point, I am at 20,000 miles.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:41 PM   #9
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I'm actually happy with the stoping ability of my 2009 KLR, I understand they made some changes.
I think Generation 2 KLR's have larger-diameter front rotors (although perhaps not as large as the EBC product), and two-piston (rather than single-piston) calipers.

Improvements; however, I installed the EBC rotor, braided brake line, and Galfer green pads on the recommendation of my 2008-model (Generation 2) riding partner, who now has 41,000 miles on this setup. One squeeze of his brake lever was all I needed to convince me of the value of these upgrades.

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Old 06-21-2012, 04:44 PM   #10
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I would suggest Ricor Intimators for the front and see if they have anything for the rear. Maybe Racetech can do something for the rear?
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:44 PM   #11
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One squeeze of his brake lever was all I needed to convince me of the value of these upgrades.

well stated!
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:20 PM   #12
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Will get son to do it

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Did you armor the wiring harness yet?

That mod is almost free, and keeps one from walking home in the event the wiring harness fails....

Get three different sizes of the plastic wire split sleeve stuff, keep it in place with zip ties and or hockey stick or baseball bat tape. Seems to hold better than elec. tape.

Even the small bundles of 1-3 wires that run up to the backs of the gauges can fail from simply rubbing on plastic.

Ask me how I know...

In the end, from pulling the tank, fairing and plastics, you will know the bike well, and know that at least those bolts and fasteners have been checked recently and blue-loctited.

Also, consider a sealed, no maint. glass mat DEKA battery that is not going to boil dry like the stock batt. is prone to. Also does not need to be vented, and can be tipped, etc., no acid will spill....

Best 79$ i ever spent, mine two years old and running strong. Link is for source with FREE SHIPPING too:

http://www.etx15l.com/
Excellent sugestion! I'll have my son do that, he is much more mechanically capable than me.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:26 PM   #13
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Brakes?

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Besides the braided steel front brake line (already suggested), the oversize EBS front brake rotor is highly recommended. I'd vote for Galfer green brake pads, for their kindness to the rotor, although OEM pads stop well, and perhaps out-mile the Galfer greens.

While additional stopping power is theoretically available from the larger rotor, its main advantage seems, in my experience, the additional modulation and control of braking intensity available, including faster response (no "squish" with the braided line).

These brake upgrades will make the bike definitely more roadworthy and safer for your son, IMHO.

You mean these things are actually supposed to stop when one pulls the lever? LOL!

Being able to stop in the shortest distance possible is defenitelly something I put high on my list. Will shop around and see if there is still money left for the intiminators (I can't spell their name).

I always tell my sons: if your car doesn't start you have a small problem, if your car wont stop then you have a BIG problem. Guess this applies even more so when motorcycles are involved.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:30 PM   #14
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Defenitelly on the list if budget allows

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I would suggest Ricor Intimators for the front and see if they have anything for the rear. Maybe Racetech can do something for the rear?
Will go as sugested with the fork if budget allows.

For the shock I need something that is plug and play, can't send shock to get rebuilt as the cost of shipping will make a brand new shock a lot more appealing, being not in the US and I don't trust any of the local shops except for the one that do the ohlins which has a great service, but I don't have ohlins on this bike
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:02 PM   #15
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Cogent Dynamics Moab Adventurer shock: $480 http://www.motocd.com/cd/index.php?p...mart&Itemid=59.

Race Tech cartridge emulators #FEGV 3801: $145 from a number of online retailers--Google shopping is your friend.

Happy Trails fork brace: $100 http://www.happy-trail.com/KLR650A/K...e-KLR650A.aspx

That leaves about $250 for the oversize rotor and SS brake line--fresh fork oil and brake fluid is considered to be "off budget".

With those upgrades and your Anakees, the KLR will rail on the streets --mine certainly does, although I went a slightly different route with regard to the front brake. And I'll recommend the EBC "Greens"/organic pads, especially when matched to the EBC oversize rotor. If you don't mind skimming through, you can check the KLR project thread in my sig to see these mods firsthand.
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