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Old 10-20-2012, 06:07 PM   #16
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I haven't owned a a Dakar or Sertao, but did have a 650GS for a while. I loved a lot of things about riding that bike, but it never fooled me into thinking it was any kind of trail machine. They're as heavy as my KLR, and they cover their reliability issues in plastics that would be pretty expensive in a trail crash. The Tiger is heavier, yes, but also better suspended and with less plastics to break off. With the same rider on both, it could match or surpass a Sertao on any true dual-sport ride.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:06 PM   #17
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I haven't owned a a Dakar or Sertao, but did have a 650GS for a while. I loved a lot of things about riding that bike, but it never fooled me into thinking it was any kind of trail machine.


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Old 10-21-2012, 06:14 AM   #18
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I kinda agree as far as IF your going to go BMW go for the F800GS. Don't agree that the F800GS is more off road capable than the Tiger though,
What I am meaning is that the XC is feeling heavier when you're standing on the pegs.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:03 PM   #19
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:37 AM   #20
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I love this line in reference to the Sertao's fork tubes:

"Last time you saw sticks like these, they were marked 'POGO' on the shelves of Toys-R-Us."

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Old 10-25-2012, 06:52 AM   #21
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I own a Dakar and test rode a Tiger XC. Of course the tiger was much faster than the Dakar but the riding positon felt a lot more like a street bike than the motard-like, ultra nimble Dakar. While the XC felt physically much bigger than the Dakar, it didn't have that "big bike" grunt that should go with that size. If I was in the market for that size bike I'd rather get a used R1200GS or a Super Tenere.

I didn't take the Tiger offroad, but I could tell by the size and the way it carried its weight that the smaller Dakar would be easier to ride on dirt at least for my skill level.
Apparently you have never ridden a Super Tenere.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:06 AM   #22
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Loved my Sertao. Too bad I had to Lemon Law it and pick up my lovely Tiger 800xc. Well, maybe not too bad. The Tiger is in another world compared to the Sertao. It is like comparing apples with cat litter.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:04 AM   #23
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Those forks look like toothpicks. Did you notice the front fender looks like it will fall off soon
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:20 AM   #24
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I owned about 80 bikes. This bike will be riden solo only.

I'll test ride both bikes shortly, but only on pavement. I lean to the Sertao for cost, styling (Tiger looks fairly ugly to me in images only), and perceived better off-road manners. Please don't comment about styling unless the Tiger looks better in person than in images.

Off-road I presume there is no way the Tiger can overcome its extra 50 lbs.

Comments welcome, especially if you rode both exact models specified, and even more so if you rode them both off-road.

What, if any, earlier BMW model year has similar mechanical specs vs. the Sertao?

What, if any, mods exist to coax a little more power out of the Sertao?

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If you really want to stay at 650cc's I would get the DR. Much tougher and more dependable. There is really no comparison between the G650 and the Tiger XC. It seems that the G650 would be a little easier in single track compared to the Tiger but other than that, the XC would win hands down. But then again, its all subjective depending on whats more important to each individual rider.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:28 AM   #25
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Apparently you have never ridden a Super Tenere.
Unfortunately not, made in Japan but no demo bikes available here. Once 1-3 gears are derestricted it is supposed to be pretty fun...

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Old 10-25-2012, 10:16 AM   #26
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Unfortunately not, made in Japan but no demo bikes available here. Once 1-3 gears are derestricted it is supposed to be pretty fun...

Thats what they say. However, I have only ridden the stock S10.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:49 AM   #27
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WOW, looks like a blimp taking flight!!! JK, they are sexy, POWERFUL machines....great pic man!
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:06 PM   #28
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Loved my Sertao. Too bad I had to Lemon Law it and pick up my lovely Tiger 800xc. Well, maybe not too bad. The Tiger is in another world compared to the Sertao. It is like comparing apples with cat litter.
So in 2 years you got two bikes? man you had to be very nice to santa!
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:53 PM   #29
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So in 2 years you got two bikes? man you had to be very nice to santa!
Apparently the first one Santa delivered was a dud.
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So in 2 years you got two bikes? man you had to be very nice to santa!
Not quite. In nine months I have had two bikes. The Sertao was in the shop for the better half of my WI summer (8 weeks). Not a happy BMW camper still. Still no way to compare the two. For the $1,000 it would cost to upgrade the forks, one could have a non ABS Tiger. No comparison between the two.

BMW was clueless and unwilling to put any sense of urgency behind the starting issue. Can't blame the dealer. They came through for me.
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