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Old 06-30-2012, 10:08 PM   #61
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Guzzi's are fun machines to ride once you do a once over and work out all the bugs. I had a '04 California that I enjoyed immensely once I worked out all the bugs. It took me quite a while to figure out the bugs tho. In the end, too much vibration and cruiser ergos that made me sell it. Many bolts were lost due to v-twin vibration. I still have '03 V11 Lemans that I continue to enjoy. It's one of my favorite bikes of all time. I'll never sell that one, but I don't consider it a sport tourer. I'm sure the Norge is very capable long distance machine that is more refined than my old California. Although I've seen Lemans set up for long distance duty, mine's set up to ride around town and for one day jaunts in the country side. I'm looking for something different for a long distance duty that is also quite suited for everday use.

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Obviously I voted with my wallet and it's only been mentioned once, so I'll say it again. The Moto Guzzi Norge is a great bike that is in your weight class. IIRC my owner's manual says 547lbs dry. I'll admit this is the only sport tourer I've owned in 51 years of riding so I can't compare it to the other contenders. But I can tell you it's an excellent machine. Handling is terrific, and will cruise at any speed a sane person desires all day. I don't even get to sixth gear until I'm over 75. I've seen 52mpg, but the average on the road is closer to 45 and less than that around town. With it's six gallon tank I could count on at least 225 miles between fuel stops, but I generally stop sooner than that anyway.

Mine is an '08 that I bought new 23 months ago. It now has a touch over 11k miles and the motor didn't really break in and start to loosen up until it had about 7500 miles. Power adjustable windshield, heated grips, and ABS are all standard and maintenance (6000 mile intervals) is dead simple. The side cases are roomy and removeable in seconds (with the key) but do tend to leak a bit. It has never been a problem as I normally pack everything in dry bags anyway.

The new 2012 version has a revised motor with 4valve heads and a bit more horsepower, plus a number of other refinements.

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Old 07-02-2012, 09:46 AM   #62
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Versys 650 Worthy of Long Distance Touring

Hi all,
I know Versys is mid 400 lb range bike but how would it be as a long distance sport tourer? Just broadening a horizon a little.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:54 AM   #63
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Damn that Guzzi has a pretty profile don't it? Nice bike
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:22 PM   #64
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Fz6r

I have been riding an FZ6R for 2 years now and it is awesome for sport-touring. Less than 500 pounds with plenty of power, even when loaded with gear. I recently did a 7 day, 3K mile trip from Texas to the Tail of the Dragon, down to Florida and back to Texas, loaded with gear and the bike performed flawlessly and never once did I want more power, even up and down the mountains. I too am 5'9" and stand perfectly flat footed on the 6R but I have a 32" inseam. I can't speak to how well it will tour 2-up but there are lots of people who use them 2-up with no complaints.

Just know that someone will reply with "The FZ6R is nothing compared to the FZ6!!!" For some reason that's a pretty hot issue, not sure why. :) When I was shopping I also rode a 650R Ninja and a Suzuki GSX650F. I think any of those three will do great as sport-touring mounts, contrary to some opinions. I've learned that typically those opinions come from people who have never toured on them.



Hell the new Ninja 650 has a few changes for 2012 specifically suited to sport-touring. I've also read many reports of people touring on a Versys. The beauty of all those bikes is that they are very cheap to purchase (even new) leaving lots of money for gear and traveling.

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Old 07-03-2012, 05:10 AM   #65
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i think the best sport tourer is one with upright ergos with plenty of leg room so i would go with either a 800 or 1050 tiger . 300 horsepower is fun but gets old after a day or two



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Old 07-03-2012, 05:17 AM   #66
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Old 07-03-2012, 07:01 AM   #67
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I do like the look and refinement of Blackbird over ZZR and I believe it's lighter by about 40 lbs. The main reason I'm looking at a ZZR is that I found one that's set up exactly the way I want it, i.e., LSL bars, hard side & top cases. Getting too lazy to tinker with stock bikes for a touring set up...
Having owned a ZZR12 (bar risers, corbin seat the only ergo mods) for five years, and a ZX-11 for 17 years prior to that, I'd put my vote firmly in this camp. The ZZR is hands down the best carbed bike I've ever owned. Kawi really got it right with this generation. Engine is bulletproof.

I also like that the SW-Motech racks come off in under a minute, so that when the side and top cases are off the bike it's sleek, but can be turned into a real gear hauler in no time at all.

You mentioned you found one in a dark blue; is it the color (pearl mystic black) that looks like black in low light but reveals the blue metallic flake in sunlight?
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Old 07-03-2012, 07:59 AM   #68
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Hi all,
I know Versys is mid 400 lb range bike but how would it be as a long distance sport tourer? Just broadening a horizon a little.
With a Russell seat, larger windscreen and GIVI's, it does the trick for me. Lots of carrying capability, bullet-proof engine, enough top speed to scare yourself, good mileage, and probably $3500 left over from one of the previous suggestions.


Not that money is everything: WEIGHT is.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:19 AM   #69
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Does someone have a job at the Triumph factory running into the 1050 from the rear with a bulldozer?
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:48 AM   #70
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Does someone have a job at the Triumph factory running into the 1050 from the rear with a bulldozer?

It's got that "I'm so tough I've already been rear ended" look. If they could have kept that subframe and passenger seat closer to level I'd really have a greater appreciation for that bike.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:11 PM   #71
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It's got that "I'm so tough I've already been rear ended" look. If they could have kept that subframe and passenger seat closer to level I'd really have a greater appreciation for that bike.
Agreed, stupid style over function that i'm sure cost them sales. If I were in the market today for a ST machine it would be the Triumph GT.
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Old 07-03-2012, 07:57 PM   #72
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:42 PM   #73
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Hi all,
I know Versys is mid 400 lb range bike but how would it be as a long distance sport tourer? Just broadening a horizon a little.
I'm your dimensions and I think it would be great. I prefer it to any sport tourer I've sat on. YMMV.

The only glaring weakness is the suspension, but it can be easily upgraded.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:50 PM   #74
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r1200rt.

I'm 5'9" with a 32" inseam and can easily flat foot my 2012 rt with the standard seat. Lots of creature comforts available... Electrically adjustable windshield, electronic cruise, audio system with ipod integration and sirius xm, heated grips/seat, factory hard luggage, esa, asc, tpm, etc, etc.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:05 PM   #75
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I still have '03 V11 Lemans that I continue to enjoy. It's one of my favorite bikes of all time. I'll never sell that one, but I don't consider it a sport tourer.
What do you consider it, then?

Mine fits the description quite nicely...

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