Thinking of renting my GSA. How much would you ask per day?

[vagueout]

Lending a vehicle to someone you know is one thing, but renting to strangers?? all those horrible car rental stories i've heard or seen first hand........ not a freakin' chance.

[JoeDuck]

Originally Posted by Snarky

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Not all 19 years olds are created equal. However, he probably could rent a car in most places.

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Really? From what I recall that's not accurate. Lets look:
Avis - only in New York State and Michigan (then with an underage surcharge) every other state is no
Budget - doesn't look like it
National - again only NYS and MI again with extra surcharges
Hertz - no

The OP will do what he wants but there's several very good reason$ why rental companies shy away from people under a certain age and will toss on surcharges for those below 25. And those are companies who spend a lot of time and money fine tuning their contracts to limit their exposure.

[Sanders]

Not to hijack your thread, but they are going on a trip of a lifetime and not one of them owns their own bike? All three are borrowed?

[Izzy3]

Originally Posted by Sanders

Not to hijack your thread, but they are going on a trip of a lifetime and not one of them owns their own bike? All three are borrowed?

1. Chiselers-Historically linked to thieves, but more recently associated with just about anything. Someone who picks something apart a tiny bit at a time. One can chisel on another's stash, their money, their air, their space, their game, their well-being...whatever...rawhide someone else's scoot on the ride of a lifetime.

To answer the original question: I would ask $0.55/mile plus a $28,000 refundable damage deposit and a personal injury liability waiver.

[def]

Originally Posted by chiba

1st thing I thought of as well. I might loan a 19 yr old kid my bicycle. Maybe.

Yeah and when the kid falls and injures himself and gets a concussion because he did not wear a helmet, you might wind up at the loosing end of a lawsuit...lawyers are smarter and craftier than you and me.

I live in a rural area where hunters, kids and others ride ATVs all over others property from time to time...no license, no insurance, no protective gear, going 40-50 MPH on dirt and country roads with passengers. What happens if one of those ATVers hurts himself when on my property without my permission...the reason for posting no trespassing signs.

[JPSpen]

I have a rule that has always been proven correct time and time again..

No good deed ever goes unpunished..

I'll be greatly surprised if your bike doesn't come back with major damage. If not a total loss..

And to loan it to the son of a lawyer ? That's just double asking for it....

Sorry to be so negative....And I applaud your willingness to do this kind of thing...

One of them will stop short and the other two will run into him..... I just predicted this... It flashed into my mind as I was typing..Oh CRAP !!!...Sorry about your bike...And every penny you will ever make in the future...

Good Luck

John

[Lensgrinder]

Originally Posted by fivetimeson129

lensgrinder, good for you letting the neighbor take your bike; mega good karma. I would not hesitate to do the same however I think the liability issue raised is valid, especially these days. You could always leave the keys in the bike and should anything unpleasant happen claim that it was unauthorized use; didn't report the theft because its your neighbor....

You should try reading the post, I didn't and don't let anyone borrow my bikes.
I commented that the other bikes that the father and brother rode were borrowed too.

I think that part of planning their "Dream Ride" should have started with how THEY were going to purchase their own equipment rather than leach off of the hard work of generous people.

[Lensgrinder]

Originally Posted by def

Did anybody loan them any handguns as well? This whole thing sounds too bad to be true....sorta like motorcycle fast and furious!

Funny that you would use that analogy,

I was thinking along the same line, this is as irresponsible as me letting my 5 year grandson play with my loaded shotgun, NEVER going to happen.

[Jim Moore]

Good luck with your plan, OP. I think it's a great idea. I'd buy half a dozen lightly used bikes and see if I could make a go of it.

[def]

Originally Posted by Lensgrinder

Funny that you would use that analogy,

I was thinking along the same line, this is as irresponsible as me letting my 5 year grandson play with my loaded shotgun, NEVER going to happen.

Letting the 5-year-old grandson play with a shotgun is likely less dangerous than giving a 19 year-old a 100 HP motorcycle. The shotgun has a safety....the motorcycle?

But Lensgrinder, you are correct...both dangerous and both irresponsible.

As people, we like to do good deeds and reading between the lines, the OP seems to be attempting to do a good deed with his neighbor.

I fear that the outcome might not be pretty.

Speaking of grinding lenses...I made a reflector telescope when I attended ASU...10 inch mirror ground on a barrel top. Fun. What lenses do you grind?

[Lensgrinder]

Originally Posted by def

Letting the 5-year-old grandson play with a shotgun is likely less dangerous than giving a 19 year-old a 100 HP motorcycle. The shotgun has a safety....the motorcycle?

But Lensgrinder, you are correct...both dangerous and both irresponsible.

As people, we like to do good deeds and reading between the lines, the OP seems to be attempting to do a good deed with his neighbor.

I fear that the outcome might not be pretty.

Speaking of grinding lenses...I made a reflector telescope when I attended ASU...10 inch mirror ground on a barrel top. Fun. What lenses do you grind?

F18 HUD
Cobra
JAS 39
Boeing 787 Dreamliner
200mm Star Tracker for Ball Aerospace( For Satelite Guidance)

You may have heard of the Juno mission to Jupiter, I made the lenses for the JunoCam.

And a few others, mostly lenses for the aerospace industry.

I was a machinist for 30 plus years, this gives me more of a challenge.
Ride Safe,
Richard

[oz97tj]

I may be more inclined to offer a loaner to a close friend for a short ride that was a very experienced rider who came into some financial hardships that prevented them from currently owning their own bike.

However, in this case, the father is an attorney, so money shoudn't be a concern. Therefore, if they really wanted to do a trip like this they could buy their own bikes, or rent them through a rental agency such as Eagle Rider. Eagle Rider has placed all over the country, and the world, and they rent all sorts of different bikes including GSs.

Also, as many others have already mentioned, I question the borrowers riding ability and experience if none of them have bikes. They want to do a multi week trip but none have bikes? Thats like saying I will go climb Mt. Everest next week even though I haven't ever climbed anything more than a hill.

[def]

Originally Posted by Lensgrinder

I was a machinist for 30 plus years, this gives me more of a challenge.
Ride Safe,
Richard

I'll bet...if you make a mistake in glass or mirrors, you throw it away and start over. Perkin-Elmer found this out however, they put corrective lenses on the Hubble.

Also, I seem to recall, the Hooker mirror had to be cast more than once due to imperfections.

A machinist can weld some metal back on the mistake and redo the machining operation.

73

[lacofdfireman]

I will be sure to let everyone know how this turns out. After reading all the posts I am wondering how it will turn out myself. As far as this being a dream ride for these guys it was the boys dream not the dads. The Dad is only doing this for his kid and to be honest I am not sure if he will keep riding after this or not. I am hoping that they have such a great experience that the Father and Son's all end up buying bikes and have many good memories together on their own bikes. I know without a doubt that they could have just rented bikes but they had bikes offered to them and they took people up on their offers. My bike is not the most expensive one believe it or not. They are riding one custom Harley that the Owner of Zion Harley Davidson has lent to them that has to be a $30k plus bike easy. As far as riding experience they have very little. That's the scary part. They have done the MSF course and have had their licenses for about 4-5 months and have been riding this custom Harley for this long. The Owner of Zion Harley has let them borrow this custom bike for that long.

I am leaving on a trip and will report back when I come home and see the bike and will let everyone know how it turns out. I feel like it's gonna be all good despite all the stuff I read on here. As far as renting my bike in the future though I have decided that I will not do it. As far as lending it out again, well I will have to see how this one turns out...

[Lensgrinder]

Originally Posted by def

I'll bet...if you make a mistake in glass or mirrors, you throw it away and start over. Perkin-Elmer found this out however, they put corrective lenses on the Hubble.

Also, I seem to recall, the Hooker mirror had to be cast more than once due to imperfections.

A machinist can weld some metal back on the mistake and redo the machining operation.

73

Yes sir, some mistakes can get quite expensive especially when it's an asphere.
Most of the machining I did was aerospace as well, so there was no welding, just throw it in the scrap bin and start over.


lacofdfireman, I noticed you're going to the flying monkey ralley too.
I hope you have a good time, maybe we'll see you there.