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Old 06-29-2012, 09:45 PM   #16
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Wait for Rekluse to make the auto clutch for the F800 within the next year.
Are they?

I've been keen and searching their site for ideas.

If they had one, I'd blow my credit card on it in a second.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:38 PM   #17
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpal_tunnel_syndrome
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Old 06-30-2012, 08:02 AM   #18
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I don't believe that I have carpal tunnel, but maybe I don't know what carpal tunnel is. I have is an intermittently inflamed tendon -- the most severe manifestation was a "trigger finger" where the tendon catches on the hole in the bone it passes through so when opening or closing the hand the middle finger lags and then snaps open or shut. Symptoms have been eliminated with very occasional cortisone shots. At present, thankfully, it's just some stiffness and discomfort. But Medic let me know if I'm wrong please. BTW who knew you could get medical and motorcycle knowledge here!
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:55 AM   #19
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Moose Racing Easy-Pull Clutch System
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...ch-System.aspx
I put it on my wife's F650 twin, it works great.
If it wasn't for the EZ Pull I don't think she would be able to ride, as she has similar issues with her left arm.

I did have to modify the perch to accept the larger diameter from the EZ Pull system.

I bought two, one was for hers and one for an XS650 Yamaha I was restoring, but I ended up not using the second one.
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:48 AM   #20
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I put it on my wife's F650 twin, it works great.
If it wasn't for the EZ Pull I don't think she would be able to ride, as she has similar issues with her left arm.

I did have to modify the perch to accept the larger diameter from the EZ Pull system.

I bought two, one was for hers and one for an XS650 Yamaha I was restoring, but I ended up not using the second one.
Do you still get full clutch engagement (with freeplay) and disengagement? Where does it mount? Use the regular clutch lever and cable or replace the them? How many miles have you had it on the bike - any clutch wear issues? Thanks.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:26 PM   #21
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Do you still get full clutch engagement (with freeplay) and disengagement? Where does it mount? Use the regular clutch lever and cable or replace the them? How many miles have you had it on the bike - any clutch wear issues? Thanks.
No Issues, it's been on since the bike was new, but she only has about 9,500 miles on it now.
It gets full engagement, no slipping.

You install it it by removing your clutch cable from the lever, the EZ Pull attatches at the lever and your clutch cable is attatched to the EZ Pull by removing the cover and inserting into the adapter.

The way it works, if you remove the cover you will see a lever with a three setting fulcrum, you just put the pin in the one you want to use. I positioned it for the most leverage.

If you are in the Southern California area I' be glad to help.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:40 PM   #22
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I have tendonitis in my left elbow and found that accupuncture helps a lot.
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No Issues, it's been on since the bike was new, but she only has about 9,500 miles on it now.
It gets full engagement, no slipping.

You install it it by removing your clutch cable from the lever, the EZ Pull attatches at the lever and your clutch cable is attatched to the EZ Pull by removing the cover and inserting into the adapter.

The way it works, if you remove the cover you will see a lever with a three setting fulcrum, you just put the pin in the one you want to use. I positioned it for the most leverage.

If you are in the Southern California area I' be glad to help.
Thank you -- it'll be about a month before I get into it but I'll contact you of I have any issues.
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I have tendonitis in my left elbow and found that accupuncture helps a lot.
My wife keeps recommending accupuncture!!!!!
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:38 PM   #25
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My wife keeps recommending accupuncture!!!!!
Your wife is a wise woman !
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:44 PM   #26
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I don't believe that I have carpal tunnel, but maybe I don't know what carpal tunnel is. I have is an intermittently inflamed tendon -- the most severe manifestation was a "trigger finger" where the tendon catches on the hole in the bone it passes through so when opening or closing the hand the middle finger lags and then snaps open or shut. Symptoms have been eliminated with very occasional cortisone shots. At present, thankfully, it's just some stiffness and discomfort. But Medic let me know if I'm wrong please. BTW who knew you could get medical and motorcycle knowledge here!
The tendon doesn't catch in the hole through the bone, because the hole in the bone you refer too does not exist.

which finger suffered the" trigger finger", and was it just intermittent? Or do you still have the "trigger finger"?

Just go and see yer local doctor, he'll be able to tell you if it's carpal tunnel or not, although it sounds to me very much like it.

Left untreated, you are going to compress the nerves that runs through the ligamentous tunnel to such an extent that you'll have muscle wastage and lack of function that will not return, with time and exercise.

When you consider, that carpal tunnel syndrome is an easy diagnosis, with a simple procedure to fix it, and only 2-3 weeks without riding, it seems silly not to at least find out definitively if that what it is doesn't it?

I wish you luck.
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:07 PM   #27
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The tendon doesn't catch in the hole through the bone, because the hole in the bone you refer too does not exist.

which finger suffered the" trigger finger", and was it just intermittent? Or do you still have the "trigger finger"?

Just go and see yer local doctor, he'll be able to tell you if it's carpal tunnel or not, although it sounds to me very much like it.

Left untreated, you are going to compress the nerves that runs through the ligamentous tunnel to such an extent that you'll have muscle wastage and lack of function that will not return, with time and exercise.

When you consider, that carpal tunnel syndrome is an easy diagnosis, with a simple procedure to fix it, and only 2-3 weeks without riding, it seems silly not to at least find out definitively if that what it is doesn't it?

I wish you luck.
I believe this is what I mean to say -- "The tendons that run down our fingers are held in place by a series of ligaments, called pulleys, that arch over the tendons forming a “tunnel-like” sheath. Normally, the tendons glide easily through the tunnel." The trigger finger was I think caused by the inflamed tendon hanging up on the pulley. Sound right?
Trigger finger was a few years ago and hasn't returned. But some stiffness, pain has. I am in care of a good hand doctor. Previously he thought that surgery was not indicated but I'll check back with him on that. Just looking to avoid irritating things which the clutch has been doing. Thanks for your concern and suggestions.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:27 PM   #28
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It is essential to rule out carpal tunnel syndrome

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Left untreated, you are going to compress the nerves that runs through the ligamentous tunnel to such
an extent that you'll have muscle wastage and lack of function that will not return, with time and exercise..

Medic knows what he is talking about. The irreversible muscle atrophy of which he speaks can leave you
permanently handicapped by virtue of dramatically reduced grip strength. Think of an old woman being able to
beat you easily in a handshake "hand crush" contest, and you will get the idea what is at stake.

Time is of the essence with respect to getting this checked out by a medical professional,
because the irreversible degenerative muscle damage occurs quickly. I might suggest getting
a second opinion from an orthopedic specialist in your case.

How do I know about carpal tunnel and the muscle atrophy? It happened to me.

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I do have a suggestion relative to the bike. Try adjusting the position of the clutch
lever on the handlebars by rotating it such that your hand position changes slightly
in relation to the clutch lever. The angle of the lever relative to your hand can
make a significant difference in hand fatigue. Often it will help to rotate the lever
a bit closer to the ground. Small changes can make a big difference. I like to
torque the clutch lever pivot pinch bolt such that it is possible to rotate the lever assembly
without using a tool, until I get the lever exactly where I like it, then I tighten the lever pivot pinch bolt.

Also, get some Dri-Slide lube and lube that clutch cable if you haven't done this already.
That and making sure the cable is routed as well as possible can make a big difference
in the effort required to release the clutch. I would not assume the cable is routed in an
optimal manner without checking it yourself, bikes are not always assembled as well as
they could be.

A Rekluse clutch is a wonderful device. They have some downsides depending on which
clutch model you use, but for stop and go traffic a Rekluse is a wonderful thing
and a safety feature as well because you need never put the transmission in neutral
so you're always ready to accelerate quickly in the event someone behind you doesn't notice that
traffic has stopped.




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Old 07-03-2012, 09:34 AM   #29
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I've had the twalcom kit for ~10,000 miles now (19K on the bike.)

It's probably 30% lighter than the stock clutch. I can now ride for several days without my tendonitis getting so bad I can't bend my fingers when I wake up in the morning. It is also a lot less "grabby" when navigating low speed and modulating the clutch in 1st, which I find less fatiguing. You do need big hands, as the 'sweep' is as long or longer than the stock clutch, and you need all of it due to the reduced piston throw.

And yes, it is not an approved fitment. After 10K, I still have free play available, so I am just keeping an eye on it. Obviously all clutch/transmission related components are no longer covered by the BMW warranty. There was rumor of a touratech hydraulic clutch, but it seems to have disappeared into the ether.

Best of luck, as of right now, there is no good answer.
I checked with F800 depot and they checked with manufacturer --- the hydraulic kit doesn't fit the F650 Twin. Just though I'd pass it on in case anyone else is interested. So it's between Moose Racing box and/or Pazzo or Wunderlich handle. Thanks to all for their input.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:59 PM   #30
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Have you tried moving the lever in closer to the bar?

It really only needs to have a few mm past the fully released point. Maybe bending the lever in would help?

Changing the lever to get more mechanical advantage may help too, or perhaps using a longer lever on the other end down by the clutch. This is a common mod done on other bikes. Should be possible to double the mechanical advantage with a little thinking.

How about those really expensive fancy aftermarket levers they sell in the bike shops?
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