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Old 08-23-2012, 09:57 PM   #226
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The F700's are in at both local dealers so took one for a rest ride today. The grey looks great in the pics but looked even better in person.


All around great bike. I test rode a '10 f650 twin but that was a while back. This one seems a little slimmer/smaller. Could be the new cut of the plastics or just me being more comfortable on it.
The bike is perfectly balanced. Handles like my mountain bike. I could ride this anywhere and love it.

Very responsive throttle, seems better than the older model and the new gearing feels a little better. I was able to crawl along slowly and in control.

Shocks are too soft. I didn't adjust the rear but the front needs stiffer springs.
Also the rear shock spring is white. The bike is all dark and stylish and the white shock looks like they used some spares left on the shelf. This and the way too small windscreen were the only styling miscues.

Still needs a new seat which kinda pisses me off. How hard is it to put a little memory foam or gel in a seat?
To spend that much on a bike and then have to spend another $500 on a seat is frustrating. I can't imagine they haven't heard the complaints about the seat.

I forgot to try the ABS to see if there are offload modes but I think it's either on or off. The tires were brand new so I didn't ride hard enough to engage the abs.

Overall it's a great bike and a major upgrade from my '09 G650gs. The ones they had didn't have the computer and the dealer wasn't sure if that can be added or needs to come from the factory, so no new bike day today.
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:25 AM   #227
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...Overall it's a great bike and a major upgrade from my '09 G650gs. The ones they had didn't have the computer and the dealer wasn't sure if that can be added or needs to come from the factory, so no new bike day today.
YOU SIR ARE NOT HELPING!!! I really shouldn't be thinking about trading in my '09

I'm parsing your comments, and yeah, I'll bet the new plastics might make it feel a bit slimmer ...

I thought the transmission gearing was the same and the sprocket gearing was only +1 tooth on the rear?
Maybe better ECU programming makes it more tractable at low RPM?

I thought the front shocks on the F658GS were way too soft ... and I guess we have the same setup there...
I installed the intiminators and did not cut down the spacer tube so that added maybe 5/8" of preload to the spring

Since the coolant temperature now comes standard maybe the OBC could be "switched on" at the dealer ... I don't know (on the old bikes the display panel was different if you didn't get the OBC so not able to upgrade in the field)

The R/R is now mounted like the it is on the F800R

Does the front fender now have little protectors/guards molded in to keep rocks from dinging the fork tubes?

Back in 06/2010 I paid $40 or something like that to have the engine control firmware upgraded to #7729159 ... I wonder what the current level is???

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Old 08-24-2012, 09:39 AM   #228
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The F700's are in at both local dealers so took one for a rest ride today. The grey looks great in the pics but looked even better in person.


All around great bike. I test rode a '10 f650 twin but that was a while back. This one seems a little slimmer/smaller. Could be the new cut of the plastics or just me being more comfortable on it.
The bike is perfectly balanced. Handles like my mountain bike. I could ride this anywhere and love it.

Very responsive throttle, seems better than the older model and the new gearing feels a little better. I was able to crawl along slowly and in control.

Shocks are too soft. I didn't adjust the rear but the front needs stiffer springs.
Also the rear shock spring is white. The bike is all dark and stylish and the white shock looks like they used some spares left on the shelf. This and the way too small windscreen were the only styling miscues.

Still needs a new seat which kinda pisses me off. How hard is it to put a little memory foam or gel in a seat?
To spend that much on a bike and then have to spend another $500 on a seat is frustrating. I can't imagine they haven't heard the complaints about the seat.

I forgot to try the ABS to see if there are offload modes but I think it's either on or off. The tires were brand new so I didn't ride hard enough to engage the abs.

Overall it's a great bike and a major upgrade from my '09 G650gs. The ones they had didn't have the computer and the dealer wasn't sure if that can be added or needs to come from the factory, so no new bike day today.
Thanks for the report. How much are they going for?
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:21 AM   #229
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Yes just the rear sprocket changed one tooth. Gearingcommander.com is a cool site where you can see the results of different gearing. I don't have enough experience with the 650 twins to know how it compares in real world riding.
If your '09 is a twin I wouldn't get the F7 unless you wanted dual discs and a warranty again. Although the single blinker control might be enough too! I like that much better than the dual switches. One thing I noticed is that the switch is so smooth I had to check the indicator light to see if it was actually on.
I'll do another test ride soon and will pay more attention to the bike. It was rush hour and I was too busy dodging cagers.

I thought the brakes felt great and that bike is so quick, I think the dual front discs are a very good thing. Hope it has the option for front abs only but I doubt it.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:35 AM   #230
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$10,735 was the sticker price. $9,990 for the bike, $495 destination fee, $250 heated grips. I think the ESA, TPM and ASC add another grand.
I want the "comfort pkg" listed on the BMW site..heated grips, computer, center stand and luggage mounts. This first wave of bikes had only the grips. The pkg is a better deal and cheaper than piece by piece. Still waiting to see if the computer is a factory only option. The stock indicator is the same and has two trip settings, and full time temp and fuel level. The info button is on the left grip and is very convenient. This might be new. The ergo of everything is very good.

I think they are going to sell a ton of these and the new F8 in that bronze color. This bike looks great in the showroom.

One dealer had a fully loaded F7 in gray and sold it in one day.

Off to read seat and windshield threads!
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:22 AM   #231
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Thanks for the report. How much are they going for?
Max Motorcycles has them now on their website:
http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/machine/machine.aspx

so you can check out the prices in the US

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Old 08-24-2012, 11:54 AM   #232
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... If your '09 is a twin I wouldn't get the F7 unless you wanted dual discs and a warranty again.
Thanks ... mine is the twin and honestly I don't think I've ever run out of brakes with the single disk,
I likely will see what they would give me on a trade-in ...
Of course then I'd have to move my farkles over ... or are farkles recognized as adding value on a trade?

Luggage rack comes as part of the comfort package?
Is the the rails for the BMW panniers or something else?
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:01 PM   #233
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definitely take the farkles off the bike and move them over. Even if you want different farkles, take them off and sell them.
I'm not sure what the case mounts are that come in the comfort pkg. Pretty sure they are not the side rails and are for the top case mounting.
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:07 PM   #234
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White rear shock spring

From the beauty BMW pics, looks like the shock spring was black and then they changed it to white on production.
I'm hoping they just wanted to use up some old paint and will change it back to black. I guess it will be covered in dirt soon enough. It just looks odd to me on a bike where everything else looks great. Nothing a can of krylon can't fix.
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:39 PM   #235
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definitely take the farkles off the bike and move them over. Even if you want different farkles, take them off and sell them.
I'm not sure what the case mounts are that come in the comfort pkg. Pretty sure they are not the side rails and are for the top case mounting.
Thanks ... I was reviewing my list of installed farkles ... that was not really a good idea ... wow ...
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:59 AM   #236
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have had it all of 20 hours now
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:04 AM   #237
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that looks amazingly cool
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:31 AM   #238
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have had it all of 20 hours now
That's cool! That'll probably be my next bike, I like how the rear tire looks like it just floats there off the ground...

What color is the rear shock, grayish? Did the dealer explain what the two knobs are for on the rear grab handles? Anything change on the computer? If you had to describe the color, would it be "bronzish"? Options? Seat comfort? Pricing (OTD and otherwise)?
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:57 AM   #239
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have had it all of 20 hours now
That's awesome, how it just stands there, without side or center stands. Can that capability be retrofitted to older models?

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That's awesome, how it just stands there, without side or center stands. Can that capability be retrofitted to older models?

just get a bunch of magnets, adjust to liking
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