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Old 08-25-2012, 11:03 PM   #256
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ooh yeah, there is a thread over in the road warrior forum. So maybe the 2013 GS inherited the R internals. But if that is the case then the tank would be smaller ....

there is a comment about the US vs Euro F800R on:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/BMW-moto...s/bmw-f-800-r/

Maybe one of the 2013 owners can show us what's under the seat.


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Sorry I do not see what is new about it except the "new throttle valve kinematic system" what ever that is.

The F800gs engine is a derivative of the street bike. They tilted the cylinder bank back, different cams and the ignition map to fit it. I think the throttle body is either smaller or shorter. The valves may be smaller. The basic mechanical's are the same right down the street gearing.

Both models currently have all that "new stuff"


Edit: apparently they changed the geomentry of the motion of the throttle valve. I wonder if that is the same as a throttle tamer. Got to love advertisements.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:22 AM   #257
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So they'll mess up the whole next generation of boxer too hmm?
Apparently so, the 2013 1200GS will now come with the single button turn signal switch. :(
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:26 AM   #258
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F700 abs

One question my wife didn't ask when she took the F700 for a test ride and one I've been scouring the "reviews" (nothing more than the regurgitated press release at this point) is about the ABS. Anybody know if it can be turned off if the bike is taken off-road? The BMW website points out the ABS on the 1200GS can be turned off, but nothing on the F700 (or F800 for that matter).

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Old 08-26-2012, 04:39 AM   #259
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ABS can be turned off but still not sure if there's a new off road mode where only the rear is disengaged.
I'm surprised your wife thought the handling was better on the Triumph 800. I think the low COG on the 700 with the seat gas tank is one of the best features.
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:58 AM   #260
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Hell ... she could have changed her mind in the interval between when you started typing your append and the time you hit "submit" ...

Sorry ... I couldn't resist.... I'm married also ..........
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:03 AM   #261
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Have had it all of 20 hours now
Looks great, love the color.

Enjoy,

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Old 08-26-2012, 07:17 AM   #262
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... Edit: apparently they changed the geomentry of the motion of the throttle valve. I wonder if that is the same as a throttle tamer. Got to love advertisements.
Likely needed to support the ASC function?
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:19 AM   #263
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Has anyone looked to see if the actual front master cylinder is the same as the one on the older models?

In other words, could the non-bobble-head reservoir be retrofitted to the older bikes?
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:41 AM   #264
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Luggage mounts

Soph9 took pictures of a pair of new bikes at her dealership:

http://f800riders.org/forum/showthre...l=1#post658146

It does indeed look like they are coming with the vario mounting system pre-installed.

I've wondered why no other pannier mfg. uses that mounting system ... it's the only one I've ever seen that doesn't look like crap when you have the panniers off the bike
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Old 08-26-2012, 04:47 PM   #265
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ending the mystery... curiosity got the best of me and I magic-wanded that center stand away
I was staring at that pic and kept thinking well dammit it looks real slow with that anchor to the ground, be gone! all in good fun.

anyways, the rear luggage mounts are on there ...that I promise.
Promises are cheap. What is going on with the left side mirror? Are you a coon hunter?? Luggage mounts are not racks. The mounts installed are for the lame Vario cases. I still can't understand why you spent so much time PSing the center stand away. You have a 20 hour old bike and you are worried about a picture on a bullshit post looking cool. Let us see a picture of you and the new bike with today's newspaper from your town. Maybe a sales receipt with your name blanked out will convince me but I doubt it. GH
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:30 PM   #266
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Promises are cheap. What is going on with the left side mirror? Are you a coon hunter?? Luggage mounts are not racks. The mounts installed are for the lame Vario cases. I still can't understand why you spent so much time PSing the center stand away. You have a 20 hour old bike and you are worried about a picture on a bullshit post looking cool. Let us see a picture of you and the new bike with today's newspaper from your town. Maybe a sales receipt with your name blanked out will convince me but I doubt it. GH

all really good points.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:20 AM   #267
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The first 1000km

So my partner and I both ordered a F650GS to spec but she ordered hers after mine. What happened was I got my F650GS but BMW cancelled the July production and started making the F700GS. So short cut to the end of this story was I got the F650GS she got the new F700GS.


So we did get her bike just in time to head out to the Horizons Unlimited meeting in BC last Wednesday and give the bike a good run. There are a few positive changes to the F700GS; the gearing, placement of some key components, the dual disk breaks on the front and the controls. There is also a negative change to the wind shield which is to small and there is not an after market available yet. However, when we put my F650GS and her F700GS side by side the only real difference is the number 650 vs 700.....Oh Ya, and she gets all the attention

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Old 08-27-2012, 10:18 AM   #268
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There is also a negative change to the wind shield which is to small and there is not an after market available yet.
I did a 2 hours test ride on the F700GS yesterday, and i check if the current wind shield i have (on my F800GS and which formerly was on my F650GS) could be installed on the F700GS.
The answer is YES, just need to remove the 2 new side black plastic parts that have been added and purchase the 2 missing bracket (#6 on below picture) + screws from former 650GS or 800GS model, then remove the OEM screen and after market shield shold fit!

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Old 08-28-2012, 12:19 PM   #269
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I saw the first 2013 F800GS and to my surprise, there was a WP sticker on the front forks.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:14 AM   #270
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I saw the first 2013 F800GS and to my surprise, there was a WP sticker on the front forks.
A sticker does not a WP fork make.

They are still the same low budget Marzocchi 45mm units on the 2013 models.

If you want proper WPs on there you will have to put them on yourself!

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