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Old 08-25-2012, 07:47 PM   #256
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So, I didn't ride the F700, my wife did. She currently rides a Tiger 800 street with a low seat. While in the local BMW dealership, she at on the F700. It was not a low version, yet it fit her better than the Tiger 800 with a low seat. So, after thinking about it, she took it for a test ride.

She liked it, but felt the Tiger handled better and ... (I kid you not about this quote) "The 700 sounded like a kids bike, the Tiger sounds like an adult bike". However, She liked the fit and finish of the F700 better than the Tiger. She mentioned that if the 700 was out in December when we bought the Tiger, it would have been a no-brainer and she would have purchased the F700. We left the dealership considering buying it and selling the Tiger. However, the more we talk about it, the more she realizes there is nothing wrong with her Tiger and so unless she changes her mind (could happen between now and Tueday), she is going to keep the Tiger. Although, it wouldn't surprise me if on Tuesday, I wasn't taking her down to the dealership to pick up the red F700.

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Sooooooooo..... when you go back on Tuesday.....ask Dean ( Jones) for the Erling discount...... and see what happens............
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:56 PM   #257
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I say BS! Luggage mounts are not a rack. I think you are trying to blow smoke up our ass. GH
I have not seen one in person, but look at the posted picture closely...
In the center of the top Pillion "grab rail" you will see the chrome "mushroom" from the vario version of the mounting system - the stock grab bar on the old bikes did NOT have this...

Also look at the muffler "hanger". On the old bikes this was just a short metal strap from which the muffler was suspended - now there is a piece of tubing running above the muffler and parallel to it - looks just like the lower Vario mounting bar.

This is interesting ... it doesn't cost BMW much $$$ to install this at the factory vs. the standard parts, and probably will help the sales of Vario panniers significantly ... just clip them on and go ... no more $300 mounting kit to install??? If true, then IMHO, that is a stroke of marketing genius by BMW!
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:01 PM   #258
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Charcoal filter gone?

Again - looking through some detail pics. Seems the charcoal filter is gone. The space is now used for the rear brake fluid container ...
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:07 PM   #259
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Same as the F800R ... no "visible" canister there either...........

I don't know if that means there isn't one,
or if they just tucked it up under the seat somewhere...
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:26 PM   #260
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Same as the F800R ... no "visible" canister there either...........

I don't know if that means there isn't one,
or if they just tucked it up under the seat somewhere...
ooh yeah, there is a thread over in the road warrior forum. So maybe the 2013 GS inherited the R internals. But if that is the case then the tank would be smaller ....

there is a comment about the US vs Euro F800R on:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/BMW-moto...s/bmw-f-800-r/

Maybe one of the 2013 owners can show us what's under the seat.


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Old 08-25-2012, 10:33 PM   #261
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ooh yeah, there is a thread over in the road warrior forum. So maybe the 2013 GS inherited the R internals. But if that is the case then the tank would be smaller ....

there is a comment about the US vs Euro F800R on:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/BMW-moto...s/bmw-f-800-r/

Maybe one of the 2013 owners can show us what's under the seat.


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Thanks ............ the comment of capacity close to 12L is not encouraging............
Many riders were "less than thrilled" with only 16L
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:03 PM   #262
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ooh yeah, there is a thread over in the road warrior forum. So maybe the 2013 GS inherited the R internals. But if that is the case then the tank would be smaller ....

there is a comment about the US vs Euro F800R on:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/BMW-moto...s/bmw-f-800-r/

Maybe one of the 2013 owners can show us what's under the seat.


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Sorry I do not see what is new about it except the "new throttle valve kinematic system" what ever that is.

The F800gs engine is a derivative of the street bike. They tilted the cylinder bank back, different cams and the ignition map to fit it. I think the throttle body is either smaller or shorter. The valves may be smaller. The basic mechanical's are the same right down the street gearing.

Both models currently have all that "new stuff"


Edit: apparently they changed the geomentry of the motion of the throttle valve. I wonder if that is the same as a throttle tamer. Got to love advertisements.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:22 AM   #263
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So they'll mess up the whole next generation of boxer too hmm?
Apparently so, the 2013 1200GS will now come with the single button turn signal switch. :(
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:26 AM   #264
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F700 abs

One question my wife didn't ask when she took the F700 for a test ride and one I've been scouring the "reviews" (nothing more than the regurgitated press release at this point) is about the ABS. Anybody know if it can be turned off if the bike is taken off-road? The BMW website points out the ABS on the 1200GS can be turned off, but nothing on the F700 (or F800 for that matter).

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Old 08-26-2012, 04:39 AM   #265
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ABS can be turned off but still not sure if there's a new off road mode where only the rear is disengaged.
I'm surprised your wife thought the handling was better on the Triumph 800. I think the low COG on the 700 with the seat gas tank is one of the best features.
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:58 AM   #266
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Hell ... she could have changed her mind in the interval between when you started typing your append and the time you hit "submit" ...

Sorry ... I couldn't resist.... I'm married also ..........
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:03 AM   #267
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Have had it all of 20 hours now
Looks great, love the color.

Enjoy,

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Old 08-26-2012, 07:17 AM   #268
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... Edit: apparently they changed the geomentry of the motion of the throttle valve. I wonder if that is the same as a throttle tamer. Got to love advertisements.
Likely needed to support the ASC function?
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:19 AM   #269
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Has anyone looked to see if the actual front master cylinder is the same as the one on the older models?

In other words, could the non-bobble-head reservoir be retrofitted to the older bikes?
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:41 AM   #270
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Luggage mounts

Soph9 took pictures of a pair of new bikes at her dealership:

http://f800riders.org/forum/showthre...l=1#post658146

It does indeed look like they are coming with the vario mounting system pre-installed.

I've wondered why no other pannier mfg. uses that mounting system ... it's the only one I've ever seen that doesn't look like crap when you have the panniers off the bike
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