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Old 07-02-2012, 04:57 PM   #31
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New F700GS and F800GS

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Old 07-02-2012, 05:21 PM   #32
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Let's see if I got this right, BMW takes a bike with a 800cc motor and calls it the F650 . Now they take the same 800cc motor and call the new bike a F700. Glad to see there marketing dept has a handle on this whole Parallel twin thing.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:40 PM   #33
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Some worthy changes for the F700. Probably more HP by advancing the ignition curve. That will cause a need for premium gas.

Other than the optional suspension, some body work changes and more electronics to fail, not much new here.

As far as converting the 800 to 900cc, the cylinders are plated, so a rebore requires them to be replated. Those pistons may not have the same piston pin location, they were meant for a crank with a different crank offset which might have required different connecting rods. If you changed the crank you would have to change the ignition mapping, requiring a different ECU.

Since they have closed the HP and Torque gap, it just convinced me that the 900 is coming. It just will be in 2014 instead of 2013. I will just wait for BMW to install it.
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:02 PM   #34
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Absolutely. Replating or NIKASIL are easy I hear.

There'd be some minor issues to work out, no doubt. When the time comes and the old girl needs that kind of work, I suppose it's a case of pricing up a replacement, and sizing up if the replacement will do what the bike it's replacing does within a specific price range.

If not, then reworking the old bike becomes an option.

The release of so many models sharing the same engine platform is a good thing. Lots of repairable write offs at the auctions. I was eyeing an F800GS with a bent front end the other day. I missed the chance to bid on it, and it went for a couple of grand. Everything from the steering head back was good, with only 10,000km on it. I saw an engine out of a low km one go the other day for $1200.

I'll keep my eyes open and see what comes up. What's another bike in pieces when you already have 4 working ones and 2 "works in progress"?
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:08 PM   #35
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Am I correct in reading that the ESA only adjusts the rear shock?
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:33 PM   #36
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Am I correct in reading that the ESA only adjusts the rear shock?
Yes, on the rear only.

Electronic Suspension Adjustment ESA as an ex works option.
On request (ex works option) and uniquely in this segment of the motorcycle market, the rider can conveniently set the rebound stage damping of the rear spring strut on the F 700 GS and F 800 GS at the press of a button on the handlebar. This Electronic Suspension Adjustment - or ESA for short - allows adjustment of the suspension settings with maximum operational convenience, even during travel. The rider selects a damping variant from among "Comfort", "Normal" and "Sport" and the electronic control system measures the appropriate damping rate based on optimum parameters stored in the data memory. Damper settings can be changed simply at the press of a button while riding, with a small, light stepper motor carrying out the commands. A symbol appears in the cockpit accordingly. The adjustment of the spring mount is made manually by means of an optimised, easily accessible handwheel.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:42 PM   #37
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Some worthy changes for the F700. Probably more HP by advancing the ignition curve. That will cause a need for premium gas.
I wonder if it has some "intermediate" cam grind closer to the F800 or is it still the F658 cam?
The same language is in the announcement about detuning to burn lower octane gasoline....
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:47 PM   #38
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Just looking at that stock seat gives me cramps. It looks like they all need premium gas. I wonder if they can adjust to regular like the 1200 does. The only difference between the "enduro" seems to be it has ABS. I am going to run my 2010 into the ground. I don't see much improvement. Dave
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:55 PM   #39
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so the 650 is now the 700. Next year it will be the 750 and then perhaps the year after that it will be the 800 to match the engine displacement. At that point they'll have to probably call the 800 the 850 or something.

way to fix your mistakes with a mistake BMW!!!!!!

You can look at it several ways but it all boils down to BMW having no respect for their customers.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:58 PM   #40
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... It looks like they all need premium gas. I wonder if they can adjust to regular like the 1200 does.
On the BMW web site it does say it can be reprogrammed for regular gas....
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:59 PM   #41
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Since they have closed the HP and Torque gap, it just convinced me that the 900 is coming. It just will be in 2014 instead of 2013. I will just wait for BMW to install it.
Unless it will be a 2013 Husky!!



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Old 07-02-2012, 08:05 PM   #42
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Lots of changes are better than BNG!
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:22 PM   #43
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I wonder if it has some "intermediate" cam grind closer to the F800 or is it still the F658 cam?
The same language is in the announcement about detuning to burn lower octane gasoline....
It very well may, when I noticed the higher RPM where the power was being made.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:27 PM   #44
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Unless it will be a 2013 Husky!!



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I have it on high authority (I read it on the Internet) the bike is not coming to the US.


My BMW/Triumph/Husqvarna dealer should know, if he went to the BMW dealers meeting last month.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:31 PM   #45
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Looks like a good improvement for the old 650...... Silly crap for the 800......imho.
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