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Old 09-24-2012, 09:44 AM   #331
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Talking The HRC cat is out of the bag...

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They are using up all the left over Honda CUB parts!!!

They just couldn't buy your silence... could they Mark...???
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:52 AM   #332
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As others have mentioned it's just a concept photo.....IMHO it looks like an aftermarket kit instead of a purpose built rally bike. Disappointing from an esthetics point of view. My thoughts are that only mr Rodriguez will know if it's competitive against the factory ktm bikes and for that we'll likely not get an answer. The two rear tanks with the mx looking rear fender... tanks bolted onto a subframe.....old school. A front end that looks like n old Suzuki Mr Big
I think it looks...ok.

But wtf are the black things down by engine ?

The current 450x engine is really an 08 r motor - perfect to rallye from. (non efi r motors are pretty legendary)
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:56 AM   #333
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I think it looks...ok.

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I agree, just okay though. Looks like a bolt on kit not a factory built bike IMHO

I was looking forward to seeing a purpose built bike

Guess I shoulda known given their time restraints....
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:40 PM   #334
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I think we're attempting to extract too specific a design from something that looks like a pretty high level example rather than a specific, finalized design.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:14 PM   #335
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I don't care how it looks ... 1) I'm chuffed to see that Honda Motor is headed back to rally racing and 2) how it performs is all that really matters.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:31 PM   #336
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I think we're attempting to extract too specific a design from something that looks like a pretty high level example rather than a specific, finalized design.


Agreed, that's why I purposely mentioned this opinion was being based on a concept photo...but hey, this whole thread has been about speculation and rumors
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:45 PM   #337
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Agreed, that's why I purposely mentioned this opinion was being based on a concept photo...but hey, this whole thread has been about speculation and rumors
We wouldn't have it any other way.
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:52 PM   #338
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just hope it is reliable and doesn't break.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:12 PM   #339
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I don't care how it looks ... 1) I'm chuffed to see that Honda Motor is headed back to rally racing and 2) how it performs is all that really matters.
100% - no prizes in the Dakar for best turned out, anyhow if there was the Italians with the Mi1 ( maybe fur coat and no Knickers) would win that hands down

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I think we're attempting to extract too specific a design from something that looks like a pretty high level example rather than a specific, finalized design.
With a press conference slated for next week, not too long until we see the real thing, although I suspect that technically there may be still a little way to go before the "big one"

One thing we can be sure of though is that it's a factory Honda - it will work!
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As others have mentioned it's just a concept photo.....IMHO it looks like an aftermarket kit instead of a purpose built rally bike.

That said, from a Marketing / Sales / Warehousing point of view, keeping it as a factory designed 'Option Kit' would potentially provide an element of differentiation over their Orange counterparts.

Feasably, this would allow you to buy the 'Standard' bike, and either at point of purchase (or at a later date) convert it to rally trim.

And for manufacturing. Instead of having a small prodcution line building 'Rally Replicas', they would just supply kits of parts that can be fitted by the dealer, or at home.

I think this could be a good thing.
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That said, from a Marketing / Sales / Warehousing point of view, keeping it as a factory designed 'Option Kit' would potentially provide an element of differentiation over their Orange counterparts.

Feasably, this would allow you to buy the 'Standard' bike, and either at point of purchase (or at a later date) convert it to rally trim.

And for manufacturing. Instead of having a small prodcution line building 'Rally Replicas', they would just supply kits of parts that can be fitted by the dealer, or at home.

I think this could be a good thing.

Not to beat a dead horse (shit I wouldn't even beat a live horse )

You can already buy kits to transform an enduro bike. A purpose built bike will have far too many changes to make the price of an endure bike an option (my guess). I can't see buying a 10 grand enduro then dropping 20+ grand on a kit...swing arms, motor modifications, new triples with a longer rake, etc, etc. Don't get me wrong I am super stoked Honda is joining the game

It's the moto geek in me that wants to be wowed with rally pron, like I was when the 690rr and the 450rr were released. The differences between these bikes and their enduro counter parts is greater than the similarities.

I wanna see HRC compete for the podium, not just make a reliable rally bike

No one is on a level playing field with the factory ktm bikes, I wanna see this change. Bike first and foremost then HRC sponsoring the event ($$$$) so that they get "favored" by the organizers. Shit, Honda should buy Redbull (or have their team co sponsored by them) and donate some trucks for the ASO to use for their staff (like VW). It's gonna take more than a sweet bike to win the Dakar (IMHO)

All that said I wanna be "wowed" when they display their new bike....all just an opinion from an obscure fan
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