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Old 11-25-2012, 10:57 AM   #1366
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I think this is a polyurethane or polypropylene with aramid. these are impervious to oil. Ford has specified a special oil, there might be some bad additives that kill the belt you I would use the right stuff.


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Old 11-25-2012, 12:09 PM   #1367
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I think this is a polyurethane or polypropylene with aramid. these are impervious to oil. Ford has specified a special oil, there might be some bad additives that kill the belt you I would use the right stuff.


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You might, the other 99% of the public will just put in whatever oil they want. Wouldn't be the first time a Ford had issues with oil requirements. I can think of some powerstroke diesels that wouold not run right unless they were fed the special antifoaming oil.

This is one of those times I might just take that extended powertrain warranty...
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:40 PM   #1368
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You might, the other 99% of the public will just put in whatever oil they want. Wouldn't be the first time a Ford had issues with oil requirements. I can think of some powerstroke diesels that wouold not run right unless they were fed the special antifoaming oil.

This is one of those times I might just take that extended powertrain warranty...
"Wet" belts have been around for years. Nothing new, it's just a new application. Ford's been specifying oils for their engines for over a decade, and it's because the engines have been designed to use a specific viscosity rating and additive package. This particular engine has 12K mile change intervals. The problem is that everyone seems to think that they know more about lubrication than the people who designed the engine, and they use their own version of snake oil, then blame the company when it takes a dump.
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:09 PM   #1369
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You might, the other 99% of the public will just put in whatever oil they want. Wouldn't be the first time a Ford had issues with oil requirements. I can think of some powerstroke diesels that wouold not run right unless they were fed the special antifoaming oil.

This is one of those times I might just take that extended powertrain warranty...
There may be some quicky lube lawsuits. I know of one sucessful VW diesel. lawsuit against a quicky lube place for the special VW oil not being used, and another where a oil filter came apart, plugged the piston jets and blew a dodge cummins diesel.

You use the right stuff, and have no problems good for you. Don't change it at all, like a coworkers kid did, or use the wrong stuff, too bad so sad.

I am fond of saying, you can not idiot proof anything, they keep making better idiots.

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Old 11-25-2012, 01:35 PM   #1370
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There may be some quicky lube lawsuits. I know of one sucessful VW diesel. lawsuit against a quicky lube place for the special VW oil not being used, and another where a oil filter came apart, plugged the piston jets and blew a dodge cummins diesel.

You use the right stuff, and have no problems good for you. Don't change it at all, like a coworkers kid did, or use the wrong stuff, too bad so sad.

I am fond of saying, you can not idiot proof anything, they keep making better idiots.

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I just got a bulletin from Ford saying that some aftermarket filters had come apart and clogged the oil feed to the camshafts. They weren't specific as to which brand, but I suspect it's one of the cheaper ones, maybe made in China.

My dealer is a half mile away and has a quick oil change facility, so I get it done there using OEM oil and filters.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:50 PM   #1371
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You use the right stuff, and have no problems good for you.
What if the right stuff isn't available? What do you do then? Such specialized requirements can be a real pain-in-the-ass out here where things are so few & far between.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:26 AM   #1372
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What if the right stuff isn't available? What do you do then? Such specialized requirements can be a real pain-in-the-ass out here where things are so few & far between.
As long you're aware of the requirement and you're concientious it's not a big deal. Case in point- 2006 VW TDI with "pump deuse" engine. You HAVE to use VW spec oil and the only place I've ever found the oil that meets this spec is the local VW dealer. The owner's manual actually cautions you that this oil is hard to find and recommends that you always keep an extra quart in the car, so that's what I've done since I bought the car. I haven't needed that extra quart in 100k+ miles, but I make sure I have it.

That said, I'm sure there are plenty of TDI owners that never opened the owner's manual and dumped whatever was available in the crankcase if they needed a quart.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:57 AM   #1373
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:18 AM   #1374
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:59 AM   #1375
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I give up, what is it?
Looks like a close up of a valve being ground.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:29 PM   #1376
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Looks like a close up of a valve being ground.
just trying to steer the thread back on course...

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Old 11-27-2012, 01:13 PM   #1377
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What is it? It is from the Arpilia forum, upside down, air cooled?
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:27 PM   #1378
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just trying to steer the thread back on course...

Ahhh, now I see it, and I recognize the gizmos above.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:25 PM   #1379
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:02 PM   #1380
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Hmmm...my buddy has on old V-12 flattie from his '41 Lincoln project that I might try to grab....that or the glass-top rifle case for man-town downstairs.
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