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Old 07-11-2012, 04:20 PM   #76
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THAT IS COMPLETELY TRUE WITH THE SMALL MOTOR / TOO MUCH OPEN AIR. the JANUS company got a 75 unit limit for the amount of bikes they can produce as street legal until the epa certification testing takes over for any more produced. they are trying to find a larger engine that will PASS EPA. that is the hard part. the 50cc derbi motor they put in is a temporary solution.......next point i will chime in on is it is a new bike that is trying to evoke a vintage bike, hence old's cool.
Having just left a company that rushed a horrible product to a market that had no demand for it and fell back on the "well, it's Made in USA!" gimmick, I must ask.. why didn't they wait until they had their actual product ready? Why promote the "filler/place holder"?
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:24 PM   #77
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Having just left a company that rushed a horrible product to a market that had no demand for it and fell back on the "well, it's Made in USA!" gimmick, I must ask.. why didn't they wait until they had their actual product ready? Why promote the "filler/place holder"?

To me its more that if you are buying "bespoke" shouldn't the builder be able to apply for a "builder's title" for a custom motorcycle?

I doubt very much that all those custom chopper bikes have epa complaince tags.

Not that I care, its the aesthetics that are not hitting the marks anyhow.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:39 PM   #78
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.......next point i will chime in on is it is a new bike that is trying to evoke a vintage bike, hence old's cool.

So is every new Harley Davidson.

Get out of here, please..
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:45 PM   #79
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I can't see much of a market for any of these bikes (the new ones, that is).
Anyone who knows what a board tracker looks like will find these sadly lacking in design cohesion and eye appeal.
The performance level is so low as to exclude most every motorcyclist.
The price will be too high for newbies looking at Chinese scootertoys to be tempted.

Not that an acceptable board track style bike can't be built (such as "The Flying Merkin"), but they will be custom (bespoke, as P B G correctly puts it), and THEY would be welcome in "Old's Cool", yes?

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Old 07-11-2012, 09:34 PM   #80
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:14 PM   #81
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Having just left a company that rushed a horrible product to a market that had no demand for it and fell back on the "well, it's Made in USA!" gimmick, I must ask.. why didn't they wait until they had their actual product ready? Why promote the "filler/place holder"?
Everyone is looking for the next cafe racer. Someone convinced these guys that board track replicas are the next shit, so they slapped these rolling disasters together to create hype. It's a possible explanation.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:43 AM   #82
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jesus christ is my lord and savior......seems that taking his name in vain makes you the real idiot.
Wonderful.....good for you!

It seems like calling someone else an "idiot" isn't the Christian way....

Take it CS&M

Its in The Basement......
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:29 AM   #83
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Wonderful.....good for you!

It seems like calling someone else an "idiot" isn't the Christian way....

Take it CS&M

Its in The Basement......
you are welcome to call me or anybody else an idiot, but using the name Jesus Christ in vain is in esence, calling Him an idiot. why ?
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:34 AM   #84
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to me its more that if you are buying "bespoke" shouldn't the builder be able to apply for a "builder's title" for a custom motorcycle?

I doubt very much that all those custom chopper bikes have epa complaince tags.

Not that i care, its the aesthetics that are not hitting the marks anyhow.
i agree with everybodys thinking that this product is not on target......that is why i asked for some opinions. I have absolutley nothing to do with this company, i am just following the progress of janus getting a bike to the market.....my eyesight requires cap-lock
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:05 AM   #85
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you are welcome to call me or anybody else an idiot, but using the name Jesus Christ in vain is in esence, calling Him an idiot. why ?
Wrong forum for this. Stick to the bikes.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:17 PM   #86
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Everyone is looking for the next cafe racer. Someone convinced these guys that board track replicas are the next shit, so they slapped these rolling disasters together to create hype. It's a possible explanation.
I fear you're onto a core thing here.

I still think the next big thing will be street trackers.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:18 PM   #87
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I fear you're onto a core thing here.

I still think the next big thing will be street trackers.
That's what it seems like to me. Lots of local dudes have ditched cafe racers and are now riding street trackers. That's fine with me, I like street trackers more than I ever tolerated cafe racers.
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:32 PM   #88
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Well, criticism, especially of the negative variety, is always hard to hear, but we always like to know what people think. I might point out that this release is a bit premature, as we haven't even released pictures of the bike on our own website, however, it is interesting to hear responses from a forum like this. I would also point out that this is not intended, in the first place to be replica, or anything to do with a board tracker in the second. The idea is to build a very simple, light-weight, practical, repairable-by-the-owner motorcycle with a flavor of early record breakers and to do as much manufacturing as possible here in the States. We love light-weight, small displacement bikes and have been customizing them for customers for the last 8 years. We wanted to make something available to other riders like ourselves and create some jobs in northern Indiana while we are at it. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum.

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Old 07-15-2012, 01:07 AM   #89
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Don't let the criticism get you down.

It's a good first effort. A few tweaks to the look and you'll have a winner.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:25 AM   #90
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Here, allow me to fix this thread:
http://www.sportsmanflyer.com/
I've often thought that it would be cool to build something like an old board tracker with lights, mirrors, decent brakes, suspension, and enough power for riding around town. Make it reliable and cheap enough to attract young riders.
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