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Old 07-28-2012, 06:12 AM   #241
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Congrats, Aarlint. Welcome back to the world of riding. Hopefully this is the end of the issues. Man, you have great riding country up there.
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Took a while but Triumph did the right thing in the end....can't say I have ever heard of a manu replacing a bike before...
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:19 AM   #242
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Took a while but Triumph did the right thing in the end....can't say I have ever heard of a manu replacing a bike before...
As I posted earlier it's happened to me. The manufacturer gladly replaced my bike after only 2.5 years of depositions, conferences, and $8000 in legal fees
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:40 AM   #243
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:17 AM   #244
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When Manufacturers replace a vehicle it is to their advantage to avoid lemon law settlements and have you willingly TRADE them for a new unit.

In most cases this gives then a used vehicle to sell with NO lemon law title brand needed. Allows the recovery of most of the cost of your replacement bike by selling your old one when it is supposedly fixed.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:21 PM   #245
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When Manufacturers replace a vehicle it is to their advantage to avoid lemon law settlements and have you willingly TRADE them for a new unit.

In most cases this gives then a used vehicle to sell with NO lemon law title brand needed. Allows the recovery of most of the cost of your replacement bike by selling your old one when it is supposedly fixed.
Yeah it also allows them to avoid something like this
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:22 PM   #246
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The US is the laughing stock of the world with all the litigation they enact upon.....

All sueing some does is increase the price of goods and line the pockets of lawyers,..........
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:56 AM   #247
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The US is the laughing stock of the world with all the litigation they enact upon.....

All sueing some does is increase the price of goods and line the pockets of lawyers,..........
You will be popular on this site...I can tell ;)
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:49 AM   #248
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The US is the laughing stock of the world with all the litigation they enact upon.....

All sueing some does is increase the price of goods and line the pockets of lawyers,..........
There are always going to be those who take advantage of the system. Any system. But the system works. It's worked better than any other system in the world.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:30 AM   #249
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There are always going to be those who take advantage of the system. Any system. But the system works. It's worked better than any other system in the world.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:48 AM   #250
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It's worked better than any other system in the world.
Where can I hide? I'm bursting ... bruaaahaaaaaaahahahahahahahhahaha ...

Sorry - but that was just too good ...
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Where can I hide? I'm bursting ... bruaaahaaaaaaahahahahahahahhahaha ...

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Old 08-01-2012, 02:35 PM   #252
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Let's not discuss here, it's way offtopic - PM me if you want. Whatever.
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:59 AM   #254
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All sueing some does is increase the price of goods and line the pockets of lawyers,..........
What struck me about the article was that Mercedes did not pay the guy for 4 years after a court order.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:50 AM   #255
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Another Tiger that won't start

I'm located in Austin, TX, and I have a 1200 Explorer that I purchased in the middle of May, and I have been having the same issue since the very first time I went to start the bike (trailered it home from the dealer). It is in the shop for the third time (Texas Lemon Law states a vehicle is a Lemon upon the 4th visit), and they are finally telling me they are going to replace the antenna for the immobilizer (which is what I asked them to replace on day one, but they wouldn't do it).

I understand Phillipsrog is having this replaced on his 800, and my guess is that this will resolve the issue. After reading Aarlint's posts, it doesn't look like they ever replaced that, and I'm guessing that if they had, it would have resolved the issue.

I have a bit of an electronics background, so I'll tell you what I surmise of this issue. Unless there is a thermistor built into the immobilizer circuitry, it would not temporarily stop working just because it got hot; it would stop working permanently. However, the key communicates wirelessly through the immobilizer's antenna; and apparently the antenna is weak at best. Extreme heat only makes this weak antenna weaker. I have noticed that once the temperature reaches near 100F, or has been in 90F+ direct sunlight for a length of time, combined with the engine heat, I almost consistently have the problem.

My dealer has finally decided that the antenna needs to be replaced. I don't believe any US dealer keeps these in stock, so they are having to order it. I am guessing that the quality of these antennas vary, and while most of them pass QA when they are produced, a handful of them (I'm so lucky to have one of them) barely pass QA. What they need to do is raise their QA standards so that these handfuls of antennas do not pass as well.

I know an engineer who deals with wireless frequencies on a daily basis, and he has always told me that due to noise, etc, the regulations are very tight, so I understand the issues that the company that manufactures the antenna has to deal with. That being said, if automotive manufacturers want to put these wireless devices in our vehicles and make them a single point-of-failure, then they better make sure that these things are bullet-proof. I myself long for the day when we used to be able to just kick start a bike, even if it had a dead battery.

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