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Old 12-19-2012, 09:10 AM   #106
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:46 AM   #107
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Seems I am back on track. But, like they say 'Till the Fat Lady sings'. Yesterday I finally got a text saying all the parts (all the parts?) were in and he needed a day to make things absolutely right. So, tho I am ready to buzz up to Tal this morning, I am holding back because one of those thunderstorms I am so cautious about is apparently bearing down on us. And, again, all sunshine is predicted for tomorrow. So, hope to get up there end of the day or tomorrow and be back here and ready to leave by Sat. morn.
Arizona, here I come. (Maybe).
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:22 AM   #108
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Do I understanmd correctly that you didn't ride the Blue Ridge Parkway
through North Caroina ?

If you did not....IMO...you missed the best part !!!

I hate you BTW.....(j/k......aka jeolousy)
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:58 PM   #109
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Yep. Tires and the Guzzi dealer on the coast awaited and I had to make that call. Perhaps on day tho....
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:59 PM   #110
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Add another- been reading this since you started it and have enjoyed it all. Hope you have better mechanical luck for the rest of the trip.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:32 PM   #111
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I'm sorry,man. It's your handle. I'll just call u Dick.
And Lonesome Dove? Best damned Cowboy book I ever read.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:26 PM   #112
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It's an age thing- on an evening some years ago after a day of preparing trails for an enduro, one of my dirt riding buddies asked me how old I was. When I told him, he said, ",,,,from now on we're calling you dickosaurus." But I really ain't so old most days.
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:37 PM   #113
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On The Road Again

So Friday I got the bike back. With a bunch of the warranty issues not done. As a matter of fact everything but the forks was refused. I asked Danny how bad the forks were and he said they were really worn. But, as I already stated they refused to replace the warped rotors and apparently turned down replacing the out of whack windshield. On top of that the redoing of the exhaust gaskets was refused because they said the temp fix I had done in Miami was warranty and, even tho it didn't hold, I guess you only get one strike at this warranty stuff. So sealing the exhaust cost me over $400. Can u believe the two y pipe gaskets were $50 each? Plus I had to pay for the fork oil. Go figure. The exhaust is sealed up and the almost stalling problem has dropped way off. But.... at the bike shop I climbed on and the starter gave only one crank. Tried again and one crank. Then again and it fired. Turned it off and checked ground wires and all were tight. Battery read 12.5. Rode back to PCB and filled up and it started fine.
Saturday morning I am ready to leave and it behaves the same way. It was 32 degrees F. but inquiries about this have got replies from other owners starting their Stelvios in colder temps than that. I checked the stator output and I am getting a good 14. something volts. I think it's just bad grounding again but just don't want to deal with it if I don't have to till I get to my buddies in Arizona.
Anyhoo I am on the road again after setting out Saturday morning dressed to the nines. Was not really on the scenic route but was impressed with the bays and sandy shores rolling into Pensacola. Got no pics as my camera was buried somewhere and I was determined to get some miles down. Getting onto Hwy 10 revealed a lot of the long straight nothing as I left Florida, quickly went thru Alabama and into Mississippi. The coolest part was 10 after Baton Rouge on that stretch of raised highway with all the waterways underneath it. And, of course the Mississippi river. Heavy Christmas traffic once again made photo ops dangerous so I opted out.
I am now in Port Charles because weather maps are showing nasty stuff is almost on top of me. One report is talking about dangerous thunder storms tomorrow and another is saying partially sunny. We will have to see who's right. One things for sure, I am going to be a little late for Christmas at Petes.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:52 PM   #114
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It's a shame your timing is messed up on this. It would have been great if you could have stopped by MPH in Houston and have them take a look at the bike, but I suspect you'll be through there while they are closed. Port Charles or Lake Charles?

If you have the time, follow US 90 rather than I10. It parallels I10 most of the way, but it is a bit more fun. I10 between Ft. Stockton and El Paso has to be one of the most boring roads in America.

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Old 12-24-2012, 04:40 AM   #115
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Ya sorry, Lake Charles. And no time for alternate routes. Gotta try to blow by the extreme tornado warnings supposed to land here tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be past San Antonio by then. It's real warm before sunrise here this morn and the bike starts easily.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:27 PM   #116
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In The Arsehole Of Texas

Blasting out of Lake Charles I maintained good speed and it wasn't too long till I saw the big star and Welcome to Texas. A bit further and I pulled into this rest stop.

Running for the restroom I was shouted down by an attendant who informed me that I was parked on the wrong side of the yellow line. Seriously? Yep, he says, you'll have to move cause you could be run down by an 18 wheeler. As there was only one truck in the lot and maybe two cars I tried to explain how that was very unlikely but he wasn't havin any of it. So, welcome to Texas. Gave him the bird salute on the way out.
It was a good day of straight line driving and I easily made it thru Houston

and on to San Antonio. A good clean $45 hotel topped it all off. Next morning I was starting off in good warm weather and I was hopin to make some real time. Checking the weather maps was showing clear all the way in front of me but some colder temps ahead. I kept the heavy gear close by and ready to go. It wasn't ten minutes on the road and I was starting to get buffeted. Heading north west and gradually west out of the city and I soon realized my hopes of utilizing the 80mph highway ahead prolly wasn't going to happen. After a ten degree drop I pulled over and threw on everything I had.

The cuts thru the hills were playing havoc with the venturi effect and I was getting knocked about like a punchy prizefighter.

Fort Stockton and beyond was my plan for today but the aches and pains were building and the chill was actually getting thru. Plus, levelling out to the flat plain of Ozona had the wind increase and turn sideways on me.
Now, Ozona, I think, has three hotels. And, of course they can charge whatever they want because of this. I chose the Economy at $100. Im warm and cosy but do have concerns for starting the bike tomorrow. Think it will be going into the mid 20s tonight. So, tomorrow morning? May have to try and fit the bike in my room. Stay tooned.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:03 AM   #117
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Hey Toad,
I love reading your ride report. I would be pissed with the bike situation.
You have more patients then me. I guess the NA reps from Motto Guzzi
don't read ADV forums. They should have a factory team getting you back on the road.
Wish you luck from Canada.
Yup...this RR has definitely left me with a negative opinion regarding Motto Guzzi...both their products and service.

BTW, Toad, I've enjoyed your report. Too bad you weren't able to see more of Charleston. Also, it would be interesting to know how many miles you had on the MG while the problems developed.

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Old 12-26-2012, 09:46 AM   #118
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I already stated they refused to replace the warped rotors and apparently turned down replacing the out of whack windshield. On top of that the redoing of the exhaust gaskets was refused because they said the temp fix I had done in Miami was warranty and, even tho it didn't hold, I guess you only get one strike at this warranty stuff. So sealing the exhaust cost me over $400. Can u believe the two y pipe gaskets were $50 each? Plus I had to pay for the fork oil. Go figure. The exhaust is sealed up and the almost stalling problem has dropped way off. But.... at the bike shop I climbed on and the starter gave only one crank.
Good luck on your trip but this type of treatment is absolutely a bunch of BS. Being sidelined as long as you were and then not having them step up to the plate and fix the stuff that failed through no fault of your own is absolutely ridiculous. A lot of folks that read about your experience will steer clear of Guzzi because of crap like this.

I hope the next 6 months are trouble free. Enjoy your ride!
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:54 PM   #119
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Glad you are back on the road, too bad you are missing some beautiful roads due to lost time and Mother Nature, that stretch from TX, NM and AZ on 10 gets some serious Winter storms.

Not to beat the dead horse too badly, but the continued troubles are unacceptable as everyone is commenting on and I would strongly suggest you check into one of the known "go to" Guzzi shops as you head further down the road. There was a great guy in Tucson that after selling his dealership stayed on in the shop, just not sure of his status at this time. Several others in Cali and on up through WA at Moto International. I think if you invest a little time with one of these Gurus it will be well worth your time. GuzziTech has plenty of folks that can give you the latest "best" options.

I recalled that I did have one no start on my Stelvio and the push, pull, tug and wiggle method indicated the intermittent problem was in the loom near the steering stem. It was zip tied a little tight and I guessed a wire had been stretched until it failed like I had on an older BMW. Turned out it was a pin connector not fully seated in the main harness and never had a problem after that (did add some slack to the loom). That bike was run from temps in the 20-120f range all over the US and I never had a concern about reliability including very remote camping areas. Again, please take her to one of the recommended shops and see what they can find for you.

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Old 12-27-2012, 06:55 AM   #120
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Gettin Close With a Guzzi Comment.

First the comment.
It concerns me reading some of the replies I have been getting about Guzzi. Particularly about steering clear of Guzzis because of my experiences. I don't think I have ever said 'don't buy one of these bikes'. My case is probably one in a thousand and I just happened to pick the short straw. My previous ride was an F800GS that I had over 50000 kms of near trouble free riding. But, on the F800 site there were constant examples of other F8s with many warranty problems. Beemer was always quick to do recalls and warranty stuff and with their three year roadside assistance it was quite an attractive package. As a matter of fact I first looked at the 1200GS as my replacement ride. The several thousand dollar price difference was one of the deciding factors for me. The other was height and the NTX better fitted my 30 inseam frame. Plus I felt it looked and sounded a Helluva lot better. And then the big bonus, quickly discovered. After five years of butt numbing seating on the F8 I was and am treated to the lap of luxury. Literally an all day ride comfort seat. Cruising all day at 80 to 90 miles an hour (Texas I-10 is 80) with the wind going right over me on this big steady bike is a pleasure.
But it wasn't like I didn't know what I was getting myself into. My best friend Pete has always been the proud owner of over a dozen Italian motorcycles and his shrug was "They're Italian." As a gear head I was really pleased to see the simplicity and uniformity of the bike and ease of maintenance. If I had a TB sync unit and the VDST tool with me, I would almost be good to go.
The unfortunate part is the necessity of having a sealed exhaust which definately effects the O2 sensors which, in turn effect the ECU. and you all know I had the ECU flash done at Redline in Virginia. I am not sure but I feel that my present idle stalling may be directly linked to that. This after getting a reply from Pete Roper stating that he felt the present factory ECU firmware was working quite well with the 2012 NTX. I did feel that it improved the low end smoothness but if it was at the cost of low end stalling then I'm not so sure. I will have this matter addressed at either Tuscon or San Diego when I get over there.
But, I digress. Bottom line for me here is I do love this bike. So much so that I am even entertaining of unloading this bike for a 2013 (which I would scrutinize thoroughly). I would prolly take a big hit on a trade in because of mileage and the fact that there's now a lot of publicity out there on this one but still, I am entertaining that thought.
So, do not, I repeat, DO NOT base your ideas of purchasing Moto Guzzi on my reports. I am only writing my experiences as honestly as I can as they happen to me.
A couple of pointers: Buy from a 'trusted dealer' with a good rep, stick close to home for the first several thousand miles, read the forums (Hell, read my forum) and check for all those reported problems.
On a lighter note I am now entertaining the thought that Big Gal was abducted by Aliens dissected, badly reassembled and returned to the container without anyone knowing.
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