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Old 12-18-2014, 11:31 AM   #1
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Big bike friendly good roads near Monticello Canyon

Hey folks - I'm planning a winter trip down to ride the Monticello box canyon. Other than 139/142 through the canyon, what else is down that way near Elephant Butte for must do rides? Preferably dirt :). Will be on a GS with TKC 80's.
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:32 PM   #2
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Chloride Creek is a great road, totally doable on a GS with TKC80s and some skill. But it can ice up over the winter at the bottom.
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:39 PM   #3
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Chloride Creek is a great road, totally doable on a GS with TKC80s and some skill. But it can ice up over the winter at the bottom.
Well, I don't know about skill so much, but I have a lot of perseverance . Looks like that area has some warm temps coming up towards new years. Does Monticello canyon get much ice by new years?
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:50 PM   #4
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Monticello won't be icy, the spring water that feeds the canyon is too warm. But it can be pretty loose, and therefore quite a handful on a big bike. Take someone along to help you pick up your GS

Now that I think about it, the Chloride Creek road also crosses the Continental Divide. So it can be icy/snowy up top, but it just depends on the conditions of the day. I'd check with the Gila National Forest to get some information on the roads as you get closer to your trip.

Most of the stuff here is GS friendly, but again the weather and conditions on the Divide can vary from day to day:



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Old 12-18-2014, 04:33 PM   #5
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Thanks - looks like lot's of stuff to explore in that area. Looks like there's some stuff southeast of ToC as well. Palomas gap, Lost hills etc. Looks like a clustertruck of roads over there to sort out though
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Old 12-18-2014, 06:10 PM   #6
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There's a dualsport track I call the Lost Hills Loop that I came up with that is mostly big bike friendly, except the part through Palomas Gap that you can avoid easily by heading to NM51 instead, and some sand at the sothern tip of the Jornada. It generally heads south of TorC along both sides of I25, goes to Hatch (stop at Sparky's for green chile burgers), then heads to Rincon and then back north up the Jornada. It is an alternative to the Chloride-Winston route when those places are snowed and iced over.

I am heading down to ride it either next month or February as a way just to get away from the cold. Dates not set yet.

Tracks below if you'd like to look at the tracks, I also put it on the DualSport maps site too.

Here's a report from that ride:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=Lost+Hills
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Old 12-18-2014, 06:23 PM   #7
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Justin - you should come down for the next Rubber Chicken
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Justin - you should come down for the next Rubber Chicken
IMO, too many riders at RC. I avoid it.
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There's a dualsport track I call the Lost Hills Loop that I came up with that is mostly big bike friendly, except the part through Palomas Gap that you can avoid easily by heading to NM51 instead, and some sand at the sothern tip of the Jornada. It generally heads south of TorC along both sides of I25, goes to Hatch (stop at Sparky's for green chile burgers), then heads to Rincon and then back north up the Jornada. It is an alternative to the Chloride-Winston route when those places are snowed and iced over.

I am heading down to ride it either next month or February as a way just to get away from the cold. Dates not set yet.

Tracks below if you'd like to look at the tracks, I also put it on the DualSport maps site too.

Here's a report from that ride:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=Lost+Hills
Hey AtomicGeo - Thanks for the tips and GPS tracks, I actually watched your videos of the area on youtube

I watched a couple videos of Palomas Gap, and it didn't seem too bad (unless I missed something). Do you think it would be bad on the GS? I don't mind a bit of a work out, and I don't mind dropping the bike .
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Old 12-19-2014, 01:36 PM   #10
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Hey AtomicGeo - Thanks for the tips and GPS tracks, I actually watched your videos of the area on youtube

I watched a couple videos of Palomas Gap, and it didn't seem too bad (unless I missed something). Do you think it would be bad on the GS? I don't mind a bit of a work out, and I don't mind dropping the bike .
I think going down Palomas (instead of going up) is easier, but if you drop the bike, you and the bike ain't coming out alive....it's a long drop off.
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I think going down Palomas (instead of going up) is easier, but if you drop the bike, you and the bike ain't coming out alive....it's a long drop off.
OK, then, maybe I'll skip Palomas Gap.
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Old 12-19-2014, 04:27 PM   #12
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We ran into unpleasant snow in the higher parts of Chloride Creek a few years ago in late November. Given the weather lately, I think it will be snowed in and most likely closed until late March. Once it snows in the mountains, it just doesn't melt in the shade in the winter.

You can do a really nice easy dirt ride from Engle all the way to Socorro and even Mountainaire along the western border of White Sands Missile Range. You can get to Engle from Palomas Gap should you choose or you can take pavement over from T or C.

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Old 12-19-2014, 04:54 PM   #13
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We ran into unpleasant snow in the higher parts of Chloride Creek a few years ago in late November. Given the weather lately, I think it will be snowed in and most likely closed until late March. Once it snows in the mountains, it just doesn't melt in the shade in the winter.

You can do a really nice easy dirt ride from Engle all the way to Socorro and even Mountainaire along the western border of White Sands Missile Range. You can get to Engle from Palomas Gap should you choose or you can take pavement over from T or C.

I can provide tracks if you are interested.
Thanks, I'd definitely be interested in seeing the tracks you have.

and on another note, this is most random street view ever :)

http://goo.gl/maps/TTn2B
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Old 12-20-2014, 08:26 AM   #14
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You can do a really nice easy dirt ride from Engle all the way to Socorro and even Mountainaire along the western border of White Sands Missile Range.
I can provide tracks if you are interested.
I'd be interested in that track.
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I'd be interested in that track.
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