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Old 04-30-2013, 03:18 PM   #796
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Hilarious that this guy, who I suppose is your hero, will someday take out a kid or an old person too slow or transfixed to dodge out of his way.

I hope when your turn comes, the bike you are riding gets lodged up your own ass.
If we're lucky, your turn will come tomorrow so we won't be subjected to any more of your shitard posts.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:19 PM   #797
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Actually, he looked pretty damn good! Excellent body positioning, and crisp turn-in points. The wobbles looked like nothing more than, he's riding at only about 6/10ths, and there was traffic...
Dude was pretty crossed up. Sure his kne was down and they were flying, but he didn't look good. Which is really semantics when compared to the asshattery that is riding like that on the street.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:41 PM   #798
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Dood, it's a PUBLIC road where bicycles are allowed. These bicycles were doing it right, pretty much riding on the white line. If a motorcyclist can't get through a corner due to the space taken up by bicycles in single file in the outer 6 inches of roadway, that person is some combination of too lacking in skills to be on a public road, and too lacking in judgement to be on a public road because they were riding it as if it were a private closed course.

It's a public road. Leave some safety margin for others you are sharing the road with. Cuz it's not just your road, it's theirs too.
We have no shortage of peckerhead bicyclists around here, but those two guys were doing it textbook perfect. They were as far right as safe and were riding in perfect single file. I could've gotten around them in a pickup (it's legal to straddle the line to pass bicycles, and that stretch is straight), so there's no excuse for a motorcyclist.


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and if not a 55 speed limit, why not a 35 (the limit on Mulholland, if my research is correct, maybe a Californian can confirm this...). Maybe bicyclists should only ride downhill. Or just on a sidewalk. Then, of course, those pesky pedestrians would be in the way.


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Nobody walks in LA. Also, pedestrians walk on the LEFT when there's no sidewalk, so they can see it coming and jump out of the way (and, in California, cars have the right of way).

Someone who rides it more than me may be able to confirm, but I think the stretch that includes the Snake is unposted, so it'd be "reasonable and prudent" but no more than 55 since it's a two-lane; California, like Europe, is full of back roads where the limit is never posted. Some parts of Mulholland Hwy are posted 45, and the CHP is never hard to find around there...

(Random trivia: Mulholland Hwy and Mulholland Dr are named for Bill Mulholland, the director of the LA Dept of Water and Power who 'obtained' large amounts of water from other parts of the state for what was then a quickly growing city--the San Fernando Valley was just being planted to citrus at the time; houses were a long way off. There's a memorial for him at I-5 and Los Feliz--fittingly, it's an open-pool fountain.)

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Old 04-30-2013, 10:45 PM   #799
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Dude was pretty crossed up. Sure his kne was down and they were flying, but he didn't look good. Which is really semantics when compared to the asshattery that is riding like that on the street.

No assurance that they were going very fast. The wide angle go pros increase the sensation of speed. The guy with the chase bike (wisely) didn't have his speedo in the shot, but that bike didn't sound like it was working very hard.

I used to ride a number of very tight roads where keeping the 35-40mph speed limit meant hanging off, or rolling off the edge of a 195/55 rear tire without breaking the speed limit...just ignoring all of the advisory signs.
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:32 AM   #800
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No assurance that they were going very fast. The wide angle go pros increase the sensation of speed. The guy with the chase bike (wisely) didn't have his speedo in the shot...
Oh, he did. In the first half of the video, they hit triple digits a couple times.


And, chipper: Crossed up, you say?



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Oh, he did. In the first half of the video, they hit triple digits a couple times.


And, chipper: Crossed up, you say?



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Old 05-01-2013, 07:08 AM   #802
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Motorcyclist takes out two cyclists.

Glad it was front page on MSNBC.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/51719714/#51719714

Looks like target fixation to me. He seemed to have plenty of room. I have never ridden that road though.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:22 AM   #803
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Motorcyclist takes out two cyclists.

Glad it was front page on MSNBC.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/51719714/#51719714

Looks like target fixation to me. He seemed to have plenty of room. I have never ridden that road though.
This is why crappy riders hurt the rest of us.

"...investigators think speed was to blame..."

No... A rider who didn't know what he was doing was to blame.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:42 AM   #804
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This is why crappy riders hurt the rest of us.

"...investigators think speed was to blame..."

No... A rider who didn't know what he was doing was to blame.


Ah for fuckssake.




Someone ought to send these "investigators" a copy of the video.

Or a link to this thread...
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:30 AM   #805
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.....Everytime I see this.....
I don't know who this Doohan character is (nor why he finds it necessary to print his name on his leathers), but he'll never be any good as long as he's all crossed up like that.




































































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Motorcyclist takes out two cyclists.

Glad it was front page on MSNBC.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/51719714/#51719714

Looks like target fixation to me. He seemed to have plenty of room. I have never ridden that road though.
It was also on The Today Show this morning... Matt wanted to know why someone was there filming to catch the accident and someone mentioned GoPro Camera's...



On the video clip "RickyMouse" was ghosted in the bottom right..

Wow, I thought reporters were suppose to know a little about the clips they were discussing..
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:59 AM   #807
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that guy should have just veered into the dirt and crashed himself.....that certainly would have been the right thing to do
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that guy should have just veered into the dirt and crashed himself.....that certainly would have been the right thing to do
..and poke his eyes out with a stick seeing as they wasn't doing any damn good..

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Old 05-01-2013, 11:27 AM   #809
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Ah for fuckssake.




Someone ought to send these "investigators" a copy of the video.

Or a link to this thread...
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Speed? really???? Counting bike lengths from the time it seems he reacted to seeing them to hitting them is about 10 bike lengths roughly. Figure 6 ft/ bike. That was 2 seconds. So about 30/sec. Or less bump it up to 35 ft/ sec to be generous. that works out to about 24 MPH.

6ft /bike x 10 = 60 ft

On the taep from the jerk up to impact is about 2 sec

60 ft/2 sec = 30 ft/sec
30 ft/sec x 60 sec/min x 60 min/hr x 1 mile/5280 ft = 20.5 mph

So add a huge fudge factor and call it a massive 30 mph.

arrrgggh.... bad enough he hit the cyclists but blaming it on speed rather than rider reaction is silly.

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Old 05-01-2013, 11:29 AM   #810
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that guy should have just veered into the dirt and crashed himself.....that certainly would have been the right thing to do

The right thing to do would have been to go left!!!! Stupid bastard!!! ( Not you, the menace on the M/C)
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