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Old 05-29-2013, 01:57 PM   #841
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Well trained bike - came right back to him.
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Old 05-29-2013, 02:41 PM   #842
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That frame slider helped.


I found it amusing that the bike almost ran him over.
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:52 PM   #843
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what a ducshit

Serves him right for crossing DY in a corner
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Old 05-30-2013, 05:51 AM   #844
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Well trained bike - came right back to him.
It's Australian.
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:56 AM   #845
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A few things I've noticed about this corner of Mulholland Drive. I think most riders know about this corner with all the cameras, people watching, etc., and a perfect opportunity to show everyone your skill level, hence the number of crashes. I was surprised to see the age of the Ducati rider in the most recent crash,,,he's not a young guy, he should have at least 1/2 a brain,,,,amazing what elevated testosterone does.

I'm gonna take a ride vacation down there again soon, and park for 1/2 a day to watch the gong show.
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:12 PM   #846
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNfFLuUC1QA

Beside the obvious, riding in the wrong lane, what did he do wrong? He didn't use his front brake and didn't look like he was leaning very far. Loss of traction on painted yellow center line combined with rolling off throttle too quickly?

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Where to start... Elbows locked, death grip on the bars, terrible throttle control, basically just not at all smooth with any of his control inputs (see the front dive under braking as he comes into the corner and then spring back up as he snaps the brake back off), legs flopping around, not gripping tank with knees, did not look around corner early enough or far enough... and more.
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:30 PM   #847
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Where to start... Elbows locked, death grip on the bars, terrible throttle control, basically just not at all smooth with any of his control inputs (see the front dive under braking as he comes into the corner and then spring back up as he snaps the brake back off), legs flopping around, not gripping tank with knees, did not look around corner early enough or far enough... and more.
Perhaps, but I don't think his locked elbows, death grip on the bars, flopping legs, and not gripping the tank with his knees, or even not looking around the corner early enough (how can you tell from the video?), had much to do with the crash.
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:57 PM   #848
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Or you could read RNickey's comments:
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Looking at the slowmo appears he slid out when he hit the missing reflector not the line.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:16 PM   #849
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Perhaps, but I don't think his locked elbows, death grip on the bars, flopping legs, and not gripping the tank with his knees, or even not looking around the corner early enough (how can you tell from the video?), had much to do with the crash.
He was still looking straight ahead when on the brakes. If he had looked through the corner, he would have taken a better, smoother line and probably would not have crossed the centerline (as he didn't do it on other corners, I'll assume it was not intentional.) Slick paint was certainly a major contributing factor to the loss of the front end but his riding style and lack of skill was also to blame. Tight grip, locked arms and throttle action would all have made the front end less compliant and more likely to break away as it transitioned over the paint. Flopping legs prevented taking some weight off wrists and getting a better body positon, which could also have helped better manage available traction.

I'd also hazard a guess that the suspension was not very well set up. At others suggested, new tires could have contributed too.

Finally ... what dwoodward said
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:31 PM   #850
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A few things I've noticed about this corner of Mulholland Drive. I think most riders know about this corner with all the cameras, people watching, etc., and a perfect opportunity to show everyone your skill level, hence the number of crashes. I was surprised to see the age of the Ducati rider in the most recent crash,,,he's not a young guy, he should have at least 1/2 a brain,,,,amazing what elevated testosterone does.

I'm gonna take a ride vacation down there again soon, and park for 1/2 a day to watch the gong show.
its definitely worth hanging out on a Sunday and watching the circus.....
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:14 PM   #851
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I once saw two chp standing at the look out TRYING to lidar bikes coming up
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Old 05-30-2013, 10:27 PM   #852
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Nice Matchless coming down the hill past them.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:11 PM   #853
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Bikes now incorporating old PWC self circling capacity.
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:14 PM   #854
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Where to start... Elbows locked, death grip on the bars, terrible throttle control, basically just not at all smooth with any of his control inputs (see the front dive under braking as he comes into the corner and then spring back up as he snaps the brake back off), legs flopping around, not gripping tank with knees, did not look around corner early enough or far enough... and more.
The "and more" would be the crashing on camera part. And us discussing it here
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:28 PM   #855
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Nice Matchless coming down the hill past them.


Good eye kid.

Now can you pls give us the X.XX seconds for us slower folks?

I can't see the damn Matchless; it's driving me nutz.
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