rnickymouse failure Mulholland fest

[tedder]

Originally Posted by MotoMike

Just past the lookout, a few years back. 60 something idiot in his old ferrari challenges 20 something idiot in his 5.0 mustang to a duel. Carnage ensues...

I had ridden through mere moments before this happened, remembered seeing the guys (idiots) parked at the lookout.

Do you know if the rider survived?

[mneblett]

Originally Posted by KX50002

You can see his throttle hand is tight around the grip, he never applied the front brake at all
Actually it looks like he had 1 finger on, but you don't see the weight transfer from rear to front at all, if he's on the front brake, he isn't on much.

Watch the slow-motion part from his entry into the scene -- four fingers firmly wrapped around the throttle, and rear wheel locked. Fingers never even reach for the front brake (in the still pic from when he's down, the bit that looks like a forefinger on the lever is the grip guard).

Classic noob error -- at that low speed he could have *easily* scrubbed off enough with the front brake and rolled into the turn -- instead, classic target fixation (look where he's looking through the entire clip) and failure to use the bike's controls/capability.

[tedder]

Originally Posted by tedder

Do you know if the rider survived?

They survived. Details:
http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/...ang-crash.html
http://www.malibutimes.com/articles/...newsbriefs.txt
http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/d...a-driving.html
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=148060
especially note: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...05&postcount=4
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1251875
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=215923&page=2
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=254500&page=3

[KX50002]

Originally Posted by mneblett

Watch the slow-motion part from his entry into the scene -- four fingers firmly wrapped around the throttle, and rear wheel locked. Fingers never even reach for the front brake (in the still pic from when he's down, the bit that looks like a forefinger on the lever is the grip guard).

Classic noob error -- at that low speed he could have *easily* scrubbed off enough with the front brake and rolled into the turn -- instead, classic target fixation (look where he's looking through the entire clip) and failure to use the bike's controls/capability.

Yeah... what I said!

[Falconx84]

Originally Posted by Grainbelt

The compilations are the best.

Is it wrong that I want to stand at the "lookout" and throw beer bottles at the jerks crossing the center line barely in control?


Never actually do it ... but damn those are some idiots

[helion42]

Originally Posted by Falconx84

Is it wrong that I want to stand at the "lookout" and throw beer bottles at the jerks crossing the center line barely in control?


Never actually do it ... but damn those are some idiots

I was thinking the same thing while watching it lol, "why is no one throwing gravel?"

[Donster]

Originally Posted by KX50002

You can see his throttle hand is tight around the grip, he never applied the front brake at all
Actually it looks like he had 1 finger on, but you don't see the weight transfer from rear to front at all, if he's on the front brake, he isn't on much.

He's on the back brake plenty--his back wheel is locked up. The spokes are stationary.

[slide]

Originally Posted by Donster

He's on the back brake plenty--his back wheel is locked up. The spokes are stationary.

Yeah, I guess he was trying to induce oversteer by sliding the rear end to make that turn. Or he was in a full panic.

[high dangler]

ok ,i get it...Its a racetrack with 2 way traffic with very untrained drivers and riders .What could go wrong ?

[Cykel]

This thread will show why I avoided that road like the plague on weekends

Great for a long ride to lunch on a Wednesday though.

Photo series for that first video:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...7630831108222/

[swimmer]

Originally Posted by Skowinski

This looks like the west coasts equivalent to the dragon. Carnage. .

And instead of a tree with a bunch of parts hanging from it there is about 3 tons of broken off motorcycle parts at the bottom of the hill on the other side of the guard rail.

[ImaPoser]

Originally Posted by tedder

It's shorter and has less rhythm than dragon. Angeles Crest is where the real riders go, but Mulholland is a good place to ride for lunch at Rock Store.

Originally Posted by eatpasta

yeah the bit of road in question is only about two miles long. It's mostly second gear stuff - not very fast. Angeles Crest is so dangerous I wont even go up there anymore. I personally know of at least three people that have been hit up there, one that have died.
On that road I've been passed by delivery vans on blind corners - PLEASE stay away from that place. Motorcyclist magazine even publish my diatribe on it. It's an unbelievable road.... and a dammed shame

Ok, I've only ridden out there once, and it was a long time ago. Is there a rock store type place up on angeles crest as well? I know I rode over angeles crest, and my memory seems to think I stopped at the rock store, but don't remember Mulholland. I might have to go dig out my old maps and see what is highlighted.

[tedder]

Originally Posted by ImaPoser

Ok, I've only ridden out there once, and it was a long time ago. Is there a rock store type place up on angeles crest as well? I know I rode over angeles crest, and my memory seems to think I stopped at the rock store, but don't remember Mulholland. I might have to go dig out my old maps and see what is highlighted.

Newcombs Ranch.

[infresig]

Interesting combination of rear wheel hop and target fixation. My question, however, is can anyone identify the dainese jacket that this guy is wearing?

[ImaPoser]

Originally Posted by tedder

Newcombs Ranch.

Thank you.