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Old 08-05-2012, 01:05 PM   #1
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heidenau hell

Mounting up a new 150/70/18 on a KTM 990.Tire doesnt want to seat properly on the bead,seems out of balance.Have deflated and reinflated half a dozen,used soap and rubber mallet.Red dots are lined up with valve stem.WTF
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:14 PM   #2
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I had a similar problem on a different bike recently. I had some sort of sticky goo on the rim from the old tire. Cleaned it using brake cleaning spray. Soap didn't work, so I used WD-40. Cranked the air compressor up to 100 psi and finally got a couple good "plops" from the bead seating. I've heard inflating the tire and leaving in the sun to bake for a while will soften the rubber and cause the rim and air to expand enough to seat the bead. Some may say this is bad advice but it worked for me. Good Luck.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:28 PM   #3
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I just had the same problem yesterday on my 990. I lubed the bead area with a water dawn soap mixture that provided enough lube to allow the tire to seat. It took about 60psi before it snapped on to the rim. It was a real bitch to get it to seat. Be patient and don't let it get the best of you.


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Old 08-05-2012, 01:32 PM   #4
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The bead popped with about 60psi and i hammered away in one spot for about 10 minutes but it just aint right.Issm sure even though it says tubeless on the carcass it should still work?.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:31 PM   #5
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I experienced the same thing this last time I swapped tires and use the new K60. I let the air completely out and broke the bead then re-inflated it. -pax
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:52 PM   #6
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I swapped tires out the other day & my neighbor loaned me a bucket of tire lube & a brush. It looked like aged beef tallow, but it worked far better than soap.

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Old 08-05-2012, 07:31 PM   #7
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My 140 k60 never popped, leading to another thread on the ever-useful OC. It is seated evenly and has not given me problems in several thousand miles. I blamed the no-pop on there being as much pressurized air in the bead area as in the tube, due to the vast quantities of soap, water windex mixture I threw at it, so it just eased itself in there. I had to unseat it and reseat it to prove it was ok. Don't know if my theory is bunk but it made me sleep easier, especially after reading other inmates had no pop as well.
Sounds like yours is not right though, not if it looks all goofy. There should be a line in the rubber that is even with the rim all the way round on both sides.
Old experience on a KLR I was trying to seat with a plastic hand pump on a hot day in Greece...it took a short ride to get it to pop in.
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:37 PM   #8
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I didn't have any problems with 150 0r 140 Heidenau. With stock wheel was a little harder, and it went very easy on narrow excel rim from Woody. I just did 140 this morning.

I always use Ru-Glide -- http://www.amazon.com/AGS-RG18-Gal-R.../dp/B000CIJUGK

I got a gallon 8 years ago at NAPA store.

BTW, I think that 140 is better handling tire that 150, dont know about longevity yet. It's more round. Also it's much easier to break the bid than 150.
150 was gone at 5k.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:49 PM   #9
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Let the air out and hit the beads with silicon spray. I won't mount a tire without it. You will be glad you used silicone when you go to remove it as well. It works so much better than soap but the moral is that you need lube. Armor all works great as well.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:16 AM   #10
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was putting it off/on multiple times in the dust down the track with no issues and mini bicycle handpump force only
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:05 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by kegonlegs View Post
Mounting up a new 150/70/18 on a KTM 990.Tire doesnt want to seat properly on the bead,seems out of balance.Have deflated and reinflated half a dozen,used soap and rubber mallet.Red dots are lined up with valve stem.WTF
Last time I had that trouble with mine another inmate told me to air it up to about 50psi and take it for a ride.

I had serious doubts about this but it worked within a 1/4 mile.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:35 AM   #12
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All the above^^^^^^ Do yourselves a favor, get some tire paste for mounting new tires. It makes the bead seating easy and if far better for your wheels, and won't premote corrosion like regular dishwashing soap.
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:03 AM   #13
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From another inmate:

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Avoid using soap to slip bead that can stay slick or reactivate when wet and cause tire to spin on rim
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:54 PM   #14
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I hate Heidenau tires...
I'm pretty good at mounting tires, but these things are just too tight.
I've bent tire irons, broken beads, and scratched the hell out of my rims...
I won't use them any more.

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Old 08-06-2012, 03:35 PM   #15
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Had a hell of a fight with my K60 Scout rear too. Front went on easy, but the rear costed sweat, blood, and a good scratch on the rim.
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