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Old 05-19-2014, 11:19 PM   #61
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:28 PM   #62
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Heidenau front is pretty wimpy as far as being a kinda knobby. If you are getting a Heidenau rear in the 150 size, research for a picture. It is not the same pattern as some shown in this thread. After a few miles the center section is smooth/flat/no breaks in tread pattern. Better than a street tire but not much. They do wear well--really well!

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Old 05-20-2014, 12:03 AM   #63
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I had my rear Heidenau punctured and run it flat for a few kilometers.

The bike was floating but managed to keep my rear rim unscathed, on mild gravel roads. 150/70/18. Gets flat at the center early in its life but is a good compromise for long lasting gravel tyre. Some deep scars have developed at places but not too deep, as I run it tubeless.
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Old 05-20-2014, 04:43 AM   #64
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Tight fit on rim...= less chance of slip at low psi ripping tube.
Safety bead on Adv rim = tube blow out at speed doesn't result in uncontrollable bike.

3 blokes in the field cannot break bead.......

I've run quite a few different tyres on my bike now, when it comes to replacing I cannot think of another tyre that lasts as long, doesn't cost the earth, decent off road, good on road.

Heidenau K60 IMO is the best dual sport tyre on the market.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:42 AM   #65
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3 blokes can't break the bead.. not because they're inept, because these tires are fucking ridiculously tight.

Buyer beware.
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:14 PM   #66
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3 blokes can't break the bead.. not because they're inept, because these tires are fucking ridiculously tight.

Buyer beware.
Easy to get drained and tired battling........I suggest you take a file to the safety rim, file it down along 8 inches both sides of the rim opposite the valve stem. I know they are nice and tight, that's a good thing in my book......I'm on my third or fourth now, all changed by hand, by me on my todd........
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:20 PM   #67
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3 blokes can't break the bead.. not because they're inept, because these tires are fucking ridiculously tight.

Buyer beware.

3 blokes can't. A hundred find it difficult, but get it done. And a thousand have no problems at all. Maybe it's the safety bead on those particular bikes, more so than the tires.

I've pulled and reinstalled the rear K60 my 2008 990 on the side of the road 3 times... no issues at all... no lube at all.
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Old 05-20-2014, 04:17 PM   #68
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Just to add, two michelin style tyre levers used back to back is a useful tool to carry.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:21 AM   #69
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+1 for WD40. It's made from fish oil you know...

-1 for Heidenaus, I'll never run a set again.

Fwiw, I swapped my stock ADV rim for a skinny 2.5" DID rim that had no safety bead on it. The safety bead on the rim is what's giving most people the real problem... All of my other bikes and every bike that has been enduro or off road oriented have never had a safety bead on the rim. The SE version of the 950 had the 2.5" rim that I'm talking about. Safety beads are a MOFO when you're trying to fix a flat off road, LOL!

Tire changes are an art as explained before. Patience, technique and practice are your best friend for back yard tire changes. I've changed a lot of tire now and still use an old tire on the floor as my tire change stand, the same spoons I use when on the trails and some good old WD40 or Windex.
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