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Old 10-09-2014, 12:18 AM   #1
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San Gabriel Mountains

And you all thought I was a crazy lawbreaker suggesting we get a few thousand riders together to ride all the closed trails in the desert.

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Old 10-09-2014, 08:44 AM   #2
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:01 PM   #3
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They're doing it for the fat kids.

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Matt Lee-Ashley, director of the Public Lands Project at the Center for American Progress, said one of the biggest benefits of the new monument is that it will provide Los Angeles residents more opportunity for outdoor recreation. That’s something that some communities in the city lack — limited access to parks contributes to child obesity rates of 30 to 40 percent in San Gabriel Valley, which lies east of L.A.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:52 PM   #4
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They're doing it for the fat kids.
The green nazis will say anything to get land closed off from riders. Fat kids choose to be fat. Even if you eat McDonald's every day, no excuse not to go outside and play.
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Old 10-09-2014, 10:05 PM   #5
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They're doing it for the fat kids.
Yes, because changing the sign to say "National Monument" instead of "National Forest" will surely cause the masses to abandon their XBOXes...
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Old 10-10-2014, 07:59 AM   #6
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If anything has made our kids fat it is setting up parks 50 miles from anyone's house while surrounding communities with fences and NoTrespassing signs and failing to enforce laws, leaving the streets too dangerous for play. We better take back our country before we don't have one.
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:10 AM   #7
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wonder if this means that no more gold panning in the east fork of the San Gabriel river
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:44 AM   #8
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Are there any so cal adv riders that buy into: "its to better protect the forest"
No congressional hearings. Just an executive order for a Federal land grab. Wake up and smell your private property rights disappearing.
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Old 10-10-2014, 01:43 PM   #9
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A federal land grab of federal land?????? Forest Service land vs National Monument vs National Park vs BLM. It's all fed land, no state nor private land being "grabbed".
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Old 10-10-2014, 06:16 PM   #10
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How long before the guard booths and a toll to go across Hwy 2 Thank You San Bernardino County for standing up for what's right
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Old 10-10-2014, 06:31 PM   #11
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Pull it together man , if you think there is no private land, merchants, motels, even cities in that area of the San Gabriels you oviously are not familiar with the area my father, grand father and myself have call it our backyard for nearly 100 years. The heavy restrictions in the area are soon to follow.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:56 PM   #12
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well we could change lifestyle and switch to hiking...




shame on most of us for letting this happen. very few fought it and didn't get a lot of support from the motorcycling /riding community.
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Old 10-11-2014, 12:15 AM   #13
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Pull it together man , if you think there is no private land, merchants, motels, even cities in that area of the San Gabriels you oviously are not familiar with the area my father, grand father and myself have call it our backyard for nearly 100 years. The heavy restrictions in the area are soon to follow.

hey john, sorry to see the end of an era. just like you, i consider it as my backyard and love going up there even for a short ride.

judy chu and the feds think that by making it a national monument, the forest will be better maintained and will flourish.

the truth, the same people provide very little support to the forest service in the san gabriel station. there are only 3-4 employees to cover the entire area. instead of getting more funding, they turned it to a national monument with the expectation more money will come from usda.

all the local forest service offices are understaffed and the funding allocated to them was channeled to fire fighting. they get criticized by the public and the bureaucrats for not doing a good job. sadly, if you don't have enough manpower, what would you do.......do what ever you can with what you have, and at times are forced to close the gates.
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Old 10-11-2014, 12:33 AM   #14
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It it will be better maintained because they will shut every trail down, even some hiking trails I would expect. Boooooooo everybody can enjoy the same boring ass walk.
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Old 10-11-2014, 07:39 AM   #15
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Remember how in the Soviet Union everything belonged to the "popular masses" but was all illegal to set foot on? Same thing here.
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