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Old 06-23-2012, 09:46 PM   #1
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10,000 mile valve check question on a 2009 KTM 990 ADV

How important is the 10,000 mile valve check on a 09 990 ADV not only is it exspensive and it takes like 8 hrs by yourself is it worth the time and money.

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Old 06-23-2012, 09:50 PM   #2
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I would thing the big question would be, is it worth taking the risk and the money if it's not right.
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:05 AM   #3
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Valve check will not take 8 hours. Maybe 2-3 hours. And if you plan to change spark plugs at the same time, it's only 8 more bolts to unscrew to check valves.
My 950 valves needed small adjustments both at 15000 and 30000km (2 or 3 valves were out of spec).
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:56 AM   #4
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yes it is worth doing. purchase a repair manual if you're going to do it yourself.

Often, the valves are inspect at this particular service point .. so you may only have to do a valve clearance check. But, correct clearances can make all the difference in how the bike runs so don't skip it.

As far as the time involved, consider what you have to remove to get down to the valves, then perform a clearance check on 2 cylinders ( keep in mind that it will take more time if you actually have to adjust valve clearances) then reassemble.

if you're not familiar with how to adjust valve clearance is on the LC8, definitely read up on that before diving in.





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Old 06-24-2012, 06:21 AM   #5
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Had to adjust 3 out of 4 valves so far. 9500 miles. Taking the opportunity to replace plugs, fully remove sas and canister systems (bypassed earlier), insulating airbox and installing second fan. Don't complain about your few hours...I am at about 6 months so far and have missed all the good Nebraska riding weather. Of course I have moved house and had to set up a new workshop from scratch since I started the work...just hope I still have all the pieces and some clue as to how it all goes back together

Paochow and CPModems walkthroughs are some of your best resources...keep a laptop by the bike. My best tip, from CP I think but good general practice...assuming you have to adjust valves (actually easier than most of the disassembly) after torquing the cam bridge down, rotate the engine one turn before rechecking clearances. I thought I had miscalculated shims on first measurement, but they turned out perfect after bedding everything in with spring pressure. My second best tip...bend your feeler gauges at 1" to 45 deg. I don't know how anyone gets any good feel of the clearance without doing this. YMMV.
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:34 AM   #6
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if you're not a KTM mechanic, I'd guess about 5-6 hours for a valve adjustment

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Old 06-24-2012, 02:08 PM   #7
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My local KTM dealer says its around $800 for a valve check
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:24 PM   #8
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Was quoted $400 to check. Doesn't include the 8 hr round trip and gas. If you stripped the bike down first and then hauled it to dealer maybe they would charge an hour?
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Old 06-24-2012, 03:48 PM   #9
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I got a quote of $350
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:18 PM   #10
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If you are going to take it to a shop you can negotiate.
I stripped my bike down so all they had to do was open it up and adjust.

I have 28K+ on my bike and one valve was out.
Cost me $100 for my adjustment.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:37 PM   #11
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Worth it after 20,000 miles

I just had my valves readjusted this week. 5 out of 8 were out of specs. I cannot tell you how they were after 10,000 miles but the bike does feel better now.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:53 AM   #12
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Just did mine. Bike runs MUCH smoother. Took me 2.5 hours just to get to the valves and I'm no stranger to bike maintenance! Took longer to put it back together! Biggest pain is crash bars if you have them. Doing the actual valve adjustment is the easy part.
All but one was out of spec.
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:26 PM   #13
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990 is quite easy due to the gear driven cams.

good time to rid of the air box and install a rottweiler or equiv air filter. your next check/adjust will be that much easier.
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:27 PM   #14
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I got a quote of 6 hours labor only, no parts. Meaning shims, seals, gaskets.
I did it along with oil change SAS nuke and some other farting around in a weekends fun in the garage. That included running to the dealer for a single shim.

I start mine on a Friday night after I get home form work. I pull the crashbars, tanks and bashplate. Then drain the hot oil.
Then, I I pull the airbox and Throttle bodies down to where I can get at the cylinder tops.
By then it is time for a beer break.
Then I pull the tops and check the clearances for both cylinders noting any I need to change. I got lucky and only had one valve on the rear that required any change.
Pulled that cam and shim and did the arithmetic. Saturday morning run to the dealer and pick up the replacement shim, and back home.
Assemble, and re-check. I re-checked all the valves just because it was my first try with this bike.
Getting everything stuffed back in between the frame is a fun puzzle that first time.

I basically did the same thing with the 1150 BMW Adventure I had before the KTM. Though I didn't need to go to the dealer for shims with that.

In fact I've always done my work this way. I like being in position to get to the dealer early Saturday for anything I might need last minute, (as long as the part is in stock.) rather than finding I need something at 4PM on a Saturday.
My local KTM shop is open on Sunday.
Which is awesome.
But, they keep a 690 parked in the show room where I have to walk past it. Just sitting there, lonely and ignored.

OK, back on topic. I got a repair manual/DVD in pdf format from KTM Twins, I think.
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Old 09-03-2014, 01:29 PM   #15
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It could be worse, my rear cylinder base gasket is leaking a tiny bit. I get to pull the engine when the temp drops to replace it. Valves will be checked and adjusted if needed then. Might do the clutch also.

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