Hannigan Lights

[Bill Harris]

Motolights are quality gear, they should hold up. In general, when I first looked at lights 10+ years back the fork-mounted lights were almost novelty items. The Hella lamps are the best value for the buck, and I already have mine (and they're paid for).

I did eMail Jerry and got a out-of-office auto-reply saying he's travelling and be back in September. Confirming what we were thinking.

In general: Sizing the windscreen height.

As it is now, with the Vetter, the "wind boundary" hits at the top of my helmet, which is good for comfort but in the hot summer it makes for marginal ventilation. I _think_ I'd like to have the wind boundary hit about eye-level or chin-level with only the windshield in place, and then have the add-on spoiler for long trips or times when I need quiet air 'round the head. But that is only my preference at_this_time.

Hannigan can size the windscreen based on my height, etc, and their experience. But in your collective experience, where should the wind boundary hit?

Details, details...

[Canuman]

Originally Posted by Bill Harris

Motolights are quality gear, they should hold up. In general, when I first looked at lights 10+ years back the fork-mounted lights were almost novelty items. The Hella lamps are the best value for the buck, and I already have mine (and they're paid for).

I did eMail Jerry and got a out-of-office auto-reply saying he's travelling and be back in September. Confirming what we were thinking.

In general: Sizing the windscreen height.

As it is now, with the Vetter, the "wind boundary" hits at the top of my helmet, which is good for comfort but in the hot summer it makes for marginal ventilation. I _think_ I'd like to have the wind boundary hit about eye-level or chin-level with only the windshield in place, and then have the add-on spoiler for long trips or times when I need quiet air 'round the head. But that is only my preference at_this_time.

Hannigan can size the windscreen based on my height and their experience. But in your collective experience, where should the wind boundary hit?

Details, details...

I was never able to get the wind deflector to work correctly. I need to swear at it some more, I guess. Jerry gives instructions to fit the screen to your height when you're ordering, and then custom fabricates one for each fairing. This approach appears to have worked well for me. I get a rather strong, but completely non-turbulent flow of air across my helmet -- no rumbles and buffet, as I've seen on many other fairings and screens. As I favor a full-face helmet on the street, this is very important to me. I'm slightly claustrophobic anyway, and I like good ventilation with that visor down. The Hannigan's a very comfortable system to ride behind.

By the way, except for show or extraordinary conditions, I don't think the mids or lowers are necessary. The basic fairing offers plenty of weather protection.

[beemerphile]

If you are used to the Vetter, you will find that the Hannigan bubble style windshield (without the deflector) behaves very differently. Since the top of the windshield has a low angle of incidence to the airflow compared to more upright (conventional) windshields, the shield does not deflect the windstream upward very much. So, eye-level on a Vetter is much different than eye-level on the Hannigan. Also, a windshield that is eye-level would not allow you to look over the original style deflector unless it is cut down mightily.

I also don't like either the old style or the new style deflector and finally settled on a low sport shield with no deflector as the best for me. As a result I have a couple of tall shields and both types of deflectors in my "not being used" pile. One of the tall shields is brand-new and I don't think it has even been drilled for mounting. If you have interest, PM me.

Re: lowers, they do keep some weather off of your legs. On the oilheads at least mid-lowers are necessary in order to house the oil coolers.

[Bill Harris]

Oh yes, I realize that this fairing is a completely different critter than the "barn door" Vetter. I'll need to evaluate and work on what "aerodynamics" is right for me.

A couple of my leads on a used Hannigan are panning out. The most promising has a couple of minor scrapes on the side and hazy gelcoat and comes with lowers and hand fairings. It has the proper amount of "patina of loving use" to go with my old bike. Really, as long as I've had the Vetter, the finish has been a basic "rattle can black" and I woulda choked on something brand new and shiny...

I don't know if I'll ever use the lowers, but the'll be a nice option to have in 20 years as might the hand fairings.

And both fairings are without mirrors, so Canuman's offer to send his old ones is doubly appreciated.

Gotta run and do yardwork 'fore the rains hit, I'll be back...

[beemerphile]

Originally Posted by Bill Harris

And both fairings are without mirrors, so Canuman's offer to send his old ones is doubly appreciated.

If the Emgo's don't suit you let me know if you want to look at a set of used "original Hannigan" mirrors. I am putting my spare NOS mirrors and sport windshield on after a "black chrome" repaint of my fairing following a dirt nap in Canada. I also have both a new and a used tall windshield and a "new style" wind deflector that are surplus to ongoing operations at beemerphile inc.

[beemerphile]

Old style deflector going out to Tim and mirror set to Bill Thursday AM by Priority Mail.

Enjoy gentlemen!

[Bill Harris]

Thank you sir.

[Canuman]

Originally Posted by Bill Harris

Thank you sir.

Aren't you lucky to know us? I have the Emgo mirrors sitting on the kitchen table where I can't forget 'em. You meet the nicest people on a Bimmer.

And thank you, Beemerphile.

[beemerphile]

It's because we don't have to budget money for chrome accessories.

[Canuman]

Originally Posted by beemerphile

It's because we don't have to budget money for chrome accessories.

I dunno, I've been looking at those chrome Maltese cross mirrors for the Hannigan. Right after I get the tassels for my bar ends.

[Bill Harris]

And I have a choice of mirrors to evaluate, as well as a spare set (just in case)

Thank you, sirs

[Bill Harris]

It's a done deal (pending safe arrival ). One Hannigan, with lowers and hand fairings. Should here be late next week.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=226

I need to fabricate horn and driving light tabs on the mounting bracket, do a new wiring harness for the fairing and a new harness for the auxillary lights and then I'll be in business in a couple of weeks.

First, I ordered a set of new relays, connectors, etc for the headlights and auxillary lights: Eastern Beaver is good stuff-- http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/main.html

Some questions:

I need the rubber/foam strip and black nylon bolts for the windshield. I found some 1-1/4" x 36" rubber and the bolts (#10) at Gustafsson. Any other/better sources?

I'm accustomed to the way the airflow is directed with the Vetter. Irregardless of how "I think" it should work and what I'm used to, how should the airflow be properly directed with a non-Barndoor sport fairing like this?

One thing that makes the Vetter more comfy during the HOT months are the stock pop-out air vents and an added face-level vent (the rectangular, louvered one used on Goldwing windshields) which directs a smooth flow of air to the face. I'm wondering if I should even sweat (well, worry about) air vents on the Hannigan. Of all the pics I looked at, I've never seen a vent.

The Hannigan comes with lowers. I'm not a big fan of lowers (KISS), but I see that Hannigan is offering a "Mid-Lower", which appears to be the lip or spoiler at the top of the full lowers. It seems to me that this Mid-Lower lip would tend to direct the airflow more cleanly around the bottom of the fairing. I'm thinking aerodynamics along the lines of the Airhead RS-fairing. What are our thoughts on this?

TIA.

[Canuman]

Originally Posted by Bill Harris

It's a done deal (pending safe arrival ). One Hannigan, with lowers and hand fairings. Should here be late next week.

I need to fabricate horn and driving light tabs on the mounting bracket, do a new wiring harness for the fairing and a new harness for the auxillary lights and then I'll be in business in a couple of weeks.

First, I ordered a set of new relays, connectors, etc for the headlights and auxillary lights: Eastern Beaver is good stuff-- http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/main.html

Some questions:

I need the rubber/foam strip and black nylon bolts for the windshield. I found some 1-1/4" x 36" rubber and the bolts (#10) at Gustafsson. Any other/better sources?

I'm accustomed to the way the airflow is directed with the Vetter. Irregardless of how "I think" it should work and what I'm used to, how should the airflow be properly directed with a non-Barndoor sport fairing like this?

One thing that makes the Vetter more comfy during the HOT months are the stock pop-out air vents and an added face-level vent (the rectangular, louvered one used on Goldwing windshields) which directs a smooth flow of air to the face. I'm wondering if I should even sweat (well, worry about) air vents on the Hannigan. Of all the pics I looked at, I've never seen a vent.

The Hannigan comes with lowers. I'm not a big fan of lowers (KISS), but I see that Hannigan is offering a "Mid-Lower", which appears to be the lip or spoiler at the top of the full lowers. It seems to me that this Mid-Lower lip would tend to direct the airflow more cleanly around the bottom of the fairing. I'm thinking aerodynamics along the lines of the Airhead RS-fairing. What are our thoughts on this?

TIA.

MSC industrial supply is a prime source for just about anything regarding hardware.

http://www.mscdirect.com

If you want to put vents in your Hannigan, they can be found here:


http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/...ts_inlets.html

They would also have the rubber sealing strips.

Congrats!

[Bill Harris]

Ah, Aircraft Spruce. Never have had occasion to buyfrom them, although I have digitally-thumbed thru their online catalogs.

They have SnapVents. Same type as the ones on the Vetter. Original and still working (tho the plastic is yellowed and starting to craze).

And... they have NACA inlets. Hmmm, talk about obsessive thoughts...

[Canuman]

Originally Posted by Bill Harris

Ah, Aircraft Spruce. Never have had occasion to buyfrom them, although I have digitally-thumbed thru their online catalogs.

They have SnapVents. Same type as the ones on the Vetter. Original and still working (tho the plastic is yellowed and starting to craze).

And... they have NACA inlets. Hmmm, talk about obsessive thoughts...

I'd go with the NACA inlet -- and the missile launcher.