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Old 10-18-2012, 07:21 AM   #151
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WARNING: MOTORCYCLE PHILOSOPHY RANT
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Interesting. I've never heard of this character Oisin but I did just watch a couple of youtube videos he posted. Seems like he had kinda a hard time and about had a melt down at one point.

First, his choice of bike is not the same as what I'd choose. Looks like he was on a "Gravel Goldwing" (BMW GS) which in my opinion is a poor choice for serious off road conditions. Not that the Shineray Mustang is my first choice but (and I can hardly believe I'm going to say this about these cheap Chinese machines) I think for riding around Mongolia they are superior to the Gravel Goldwing. The Chinese did actually put a little thought into how these bikes would be used. They are light weight, small and nimble. That's a HUGE advantage compared to Buuuuurrrrts old Gravel Goldwing (he no longer owns it) which was pushing 650 pounds with the bags and racks and stuff. I'm sure Oisin had reasons for his choice. I think a lot of people are under the impression that they are going to ride the Gravel Goldwing on all kinds of off road conditions when in fact they are actually more of a street bike that looks a bit like a dirt bike. Don't get me wrong, I think they're a great bike if used for the right purpose. I'm a fan of the opposed twin engine. It's very smooth. You just won't convince me that those two cylinders sticking out both sides of the bike belong on an off road machine. I've owned an actual Goldwing. I wouldn't choose my KTM dirt bike for a journey across the US freeways. Again, not to nock the Gravel Goldwing too much, you just gotta be honest about what the bike's capable of. I think that for an around the world trip where the rider wants to get way off the beaten path, the DR650 may be the ultimate choice. Perhaps even the DR350 for it's reliability.

The "roads" in Mongolia are mostly not roads but routes that people have driven a vehicle on. Oisin seemed a bit surprised that there wasn't any "gravel" in the "roads" he was on. With a little homework you can get a bit of an idea of this prior to getting there.

Weather is always a consideration and perhaps Oisin didn't have much of a choice about when he'd be traveling through Mongolia. It looks like it was the onset of winter, maybe October? With a little research you'll find that the winters are quite harsh and the pleasant weather is mostly found in June, July and August. I'd say we were a bit lucky having good weather in September. We acknowledged before the trip that it could be bad at that time.

I say these things not to put Oisin down or to pass judgement but rather as food for thought for someone else considering a journey there. I'm impressed by anyone who gets it together and pulls off a journey like that ESPECIALLY trying to do it on a Gravel Goldwing! ;) "Different Strokes" ya know.

Oisin is spot on about the people and I had similar thoughts. It's amazing how friendly they are and how willing they are to help a random person from who knows where with out even thinking twice. Oisin asked himself if people from his home country would do the same. The answer was, most wouldn't. It made him really think hard about the next time he sees a chance to help someone out. I think he's probably much more apt to go out of his way to help someone now. I know I am.
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:41 PM   #152
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The longest Voile strap is 24". My buddy Wally who owns Voile talked about doing a 36" that was a little wider but I don't know what ever happened with that. That would be a great addition to the line.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:02 PM   #153
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The longest Voile strap is 24". My buddy Wally who owns Voile talked about doing a 36" that was a little wider but I don't know what ever happened with that. That would be a great addition to the line.
24" sounds long until you wrap it around something. I would be all in for 36" straps to add to my collection. We can get them in Canada branded under MEC's logo (Canuck REI), and I have ordered many more right from Voile.

Love the ride report by the way. I surprised those tracks aren't all rutted out from use in the wet. They look sooo smooth and flowing.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:33 PM   #154
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Any chance you would want to share your GPS tracks with me? I'll be in Mongolia next summer sometime.

Thanks for the wander-lust-porn!
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:38 PM   #155
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I've got to agree with you on all accounts here, but I'll add another component...

This is purely my personal viewpoint, but I'd find it strange to blow through a place like Mongolia on a $20k machine. I've never been to Mongolia, but I have ridden in India (similar to your other report), Bangladesh, and a few other countries that could be considered the "third world."

Sure, there were many times in India when I would have loved to have had a KTM 690 under me, but I couldn't imagine rolling up to a town or a yurt on something so indicative of our economic and quality of life differences. Granted, this is likely something that isn't offensive to those you encounter on the road, but it doesn't sit well with me, personally.

I've bought and rented Royal Enfields, Pulsares, and Hondas. As you've eluded, half of the fun is making it all work with what is available or commonly used in the area. If it's good enough for (insert local people), it's good enough for me. I prefer immersion. It would seem your lot does too, which is why I enjoy these reports so much.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:55 PM   #156
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I've got to agree with you on all accounts here, but I'll add another component...

This is purely my personal viewpoint, but I'd find it strange to blow through a place like Mongolia on a $20k machine. I've never been to Mongolia, but I have ridden in India (similar to your other report), Bangladesh, and a few other countries that could be considered the "third world."

Sure, there were many times in India when I would have loved to have had a KTM 690 under me, but I couldn't imagine rolling up to a town or a yurt on something so indicative of our economic and quality of life differences. Granted, this is likely something that isn't offensive to those you encounter on the road, but it doesn't sit well with me, personally.

I've bought and rented Royal Enfields, Pulsares, and Hondas. As you've eluded, half of the fun is making it all work with what is available or commonly used in the area. If it's good enough for (insert local people), it's good enough for me. I prefer immersion. It would seem your lot does too, which is why I enjoy these reports so much.
Sure, rent or buy something "local" if you're flying into particular country or region but most of the riders on big GSs are traveling for months - more often years - around the world. Like Oisin, they just ride what they brung.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:33 PM   #157
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Yeah, again to each his own. I really do love all motorcycles. I just like to poke at my buddies who own Gravel Goldwings! ;)

Day 19
We slept under the stars the last night. We figured it would save us some time breaking camp in the morning. We packed and rode planning on getting a real breakfast at our friends place in UB.


Here was the last sweet little section of two track.


We quickly got to the outskirts of Ulaanbaatar. Kind of depressing it was coming to an end.


Then my bike quit running. CRAP!! Not totally unexpected but really? 15km from the finish? I quickly figured out that the spark plug had fouled out. Kind of weird that a 4 stroke would foul I thought. Oh well. A mongolian came over to give me a hand. He hadn't seen me clean the plug and he fiddled around a bit then kicked it over and it started. He was pretty proud. Too funny.


Well, we dodged the fuzz on the way in and made it to our friends place. We weren't done yet. It was strictly business now. We headed over to a car wash and cleaned up the bikes anticipating a sale.


We polished these turds up pretty good!


Wow!! That thing's looking sharp!!


We met up with our other friend Tuvshi who new someone that might be interested in all three bikes.


Sure enough, sold for $400 a piece. Done deal.

47km for the day.
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:00 AM   #158
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Just love your whole take on the trip! Well done, looks like you had a blast
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:01 AM   #159
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What an awesome ride report! This is one of those truly inspiring ones!

Although my eyes still burn from the sexay buuuuurt pics!
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:54 AM   #160
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I quickly figured out that the spark plug had fouled out. Kind of weird that a 4 stroke would foul I thought...
The stock plug is Chinese brand, quality varies on ur luck. #1 rule about these machine is change to what their "ancestor" recommend.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:53 AM   #161
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View Mongolia in a larger map
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:55 AM   #162
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I'm not much of gps guy. I guess the best format to share tracks is GPX files? Got any suggestions on where to store a GPX file that people can download?
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:28 AM   #163
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This was an epic trip, one you should be proud of for sure. Lifetimes worth of great memories. I can hardly wait until I get there. Thanks so much for an inspiring report.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:32 AM   #164
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Respect. Great trip and really striking images
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:47 PM   #165
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Thanks for taking me along. What a great read!
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