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Old 08-20-2012, 07:27 AM   #1
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1200 GS won't go into first gear from standstill

Before I take it in to the dealer under warranty, I thought I would get some ideas.

On my 2011 1200 GS I can't first time periodically select first gear from a standstill. If I am downshifting, no problem, but going from neutral to first after starting the bike, it feels like there is no first gear detente.. If I let the clutch out again I can then find first gear. The green "N" flickers and then goes out when it clicks into gear.

It is low mileage, less than 1,000 km on the bike

Thanks,

John
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:30 AM   #2
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This is normal.

A dry clutch does not have any drag, so if teeth are not lined up, it will not go in.

What we all do is pull up on the lever with foot, let out clutch slowly, there will be a clunk, and you are in first.

Becomes automatic after a bit.

Rode long, ride far, the bike is fine.

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Old 08-20-2012, 07:31 AM   #3
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That's actually fairly normal.
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:36 AM   #4
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What we all do is pull up on the lever with foot, let out clutch slowly, there will be a clunk, and you are in first.
I have a slightly different approach to offer. On my 11GS and my friend's 12GS the way I get into gear at a standstill is that I shift into first as I'm pulling in the clutch. That way the shaft is still spinning a little bit from the momentum even though the clutch has just become fully disengaged. It doesn't clunk and now it's second nature.
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:59 AM   #5
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Sometimes I'll just pushed the bike back lightly with my right foot and it'll go in to gear too.
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:20 AM   #6
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Thanks everyone for the very prompt replies. The answers are very helpfull (and reassuring!).

I will go away and try again with these new techniques.

John
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:07 AM   #7
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As others have said - perfectly normal! Let the clutch out and back in, then shift into first within 1/2 second or two while trans shafts are still turning. It will go easily.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:14 PM   #8
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That's actually fairly normal.
This.
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:31 PM   #9
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As others have said - perfectly normal! Let the clutch out and back in, then shift into first within 1/2 second or two while trans shafts are still turning. It will go easily.

THIS

Don't do anything but, when in neutral, let the clutch out and then pull it back in. Click into first.

So easy a monkey could do it.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:08 PM   #10
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Yeah, this monkey does that! And it's easy
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:25 PM   #11
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Just re-engage (or double clutch) the clutch lever, then shift into first as normal.
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:46 PM   #12
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Mine does the same thing and I think I've used all of the techniques listed above. I remember being a little nervous when I couldn't get my brand new bike in first gear to drive it out of the dealer's lot!
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:14 AM   #13
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Or hold the shifter down and ease the clutch out slowly. Accomplishes the same thing.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:49 AM   #14
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Or hold the shifter down and ease the clutch out slowly. Accomplishes the same thing.
This is what my dealer told me. Works.

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Old 08-21-2012, 01:59 PM   #15
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As everyone has said above, this is totally normal. It is good to know what's actually happening inside your transmission when you shift through the gears. If you are interested, the link below is good enough to give you a basic understanding of a manual transmission.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission2.htm

Bottom line: the transmission has spun down to a stop and the engagement dogs on the shift collar are not alligned with the holes in the gear you're trying to select. Applying a slight drag to the clutch spins up the transmission just enough to align the dogs and holes.

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