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Old 08-24-2012, 08:30 AM   #16
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I probably got 1800-2000 miles (sorry, no true odometer) on my 450X motor before a top end rebuild was needed.
What kind of riding was that? I'm sure I could toast an engine in a summer or two if it was all single track riding at near race pace. Cruising around taking in the scenery and exploring the backroads is a great deal less strain on the motor. I find for dual sport use my oil still looks new after 500 miles, I usually change it around 1000 miles and it's just starting to get dark. I'm well over 8,000 miles on mine and it's still running strong.

Imagine how long your car or truck would last if you spent all your time in 1-3 gear in the top 30% of the rev range with the hammer down the entire time you drove it.

I'm not saying that the CRF is a good choice for long distance touring or that it's going to anywhere near as reliable as an XR, KLR, WRR, whatever. I'm just saying that you're comparing apples to oranges when comparing a dirtbike that is ridden as such to a dirtbike that is ridden solely as a dual sport.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:54 AM   #17
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Dark;19430224Check out your maintenance schedules. If used in competition, Honda recommends new piston/rings every 15 hours!. Also, the motor oil capacity is limited (.74 qt) and should be changed every 100 miles. See where I'm going... Honda did not design nor intend this bike to run a lot of miles between service intervals because it is a dirt bike..[/QUOTE]

JCR /Honda must be Real fast doing oil changes every 100 miles and changing out a Top End at 15 hr.
During all the Baja 1000 and 500 they have WON!

The Honda 450x is a GREAT bike!
I do LOVE my KTM 640 a lot more!!!!!
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:14 AM   #18
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Agreed... I'm not saying that folks outside hard core enduro racing (JCR, etc) are doing 15 hour piston/ring jobs nor that one has to change their oil every 100 hours... just pointing out a couple of data points from Honda's (racing) maintenance schedules as a indicator to the intended design of the motor and bike. No question you could cruise forest roads and street and extend those intervals by a long shot. It still does not change the fact that Honda designed it as a dirt bike.

The OP wants to 'turn the the 450X into an Adventure bike'. IMO, not realistic for a lot of reasons but guess that depends on how one defines 'adventure bike' and 'adventure riding'. I can't imagine spending 10-14 days riding on/off road across the western U.S. and Canada on my 450X... but that's my definition.

Philosophy aside, riding something is always better than riding nothing... ride and enjoy!
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Old 08-31-2012, 03:11 PM   #19
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Yes, finally my taptalk pic is working!

I here all the above on my poor CRF 450x, I guess I'm not a 1 week adventure guy, I usually ride about 150 in my ride, gravel roads, 90 % and I cruise 45 to 55 mph, with my new 16/46 sprocket set up, it's unreal the low rpms I'm riding at 55 ! I change my oil every 500 and that is about every 4 th trip, my oil is cleaner with that change then a 2 hr hare-scramble! Lol!

Yes, if I was a pavement pounder, no CRF, but I'm a day tripper on the back roads!
Love my custom seat from fisher !

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Old 08-31-2012, 03:12 PM   #20
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Here is a better pick of the seat!
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:16 PM   #21
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Here is a better pick of the seat!
Nice seat!! I was debating between Fisher and Seat Concepts. Ended up going with seat concepts due to time restraints. The Fisher looks awesome, I like that they modify and re-use the Honda seat cover.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:43 PM   #22
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After I called them and they asked where I normally sat on the bike when riding, they got my dollar! The lines flow super with my bike! I'm very happy customer!
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:52 PM   #23
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Just a update on my legal crf450x
It's been a blast and have had some great country rides on the back road.
No problems to date it's a blast!
Still I'm no pavement pounder and I change oil about 500 to 750 miles.




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Old 08-12-2013, 08:17 PM   #24
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Seat mod looks good, Rusty! Use my plated 450X mostly for dirt but do run a few weekend events where there is some pavement thrown in... result with stock seat is always 'monkey butt'. Was looking at products from Seat Concepts and Renazco but would be interested in lower cost alternatives.

Can you share who, where, how much on the seat mod?
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Old 08-13-2013, 06:21 AM   #25
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Yes, Fischer seats they threaded me like a King, they wanted to know where I set on the seat at cruise speeds, used my old bike cover and added new material it was great, $250 I think it has been a year. :)
I give the seat 10!
They have a website just give them a call they are in Idaho and I had my seat I had my seat back in 7 days from went I sent it.


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Old 08-13-2013, 07:03 AM   #26
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What a great way to distroy a perfectly good 450x. Rally racing and common man dual sport riding, require two completely different build approaches.

For six grand, you could buy a KTM 640 ADV and be done with the project.
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I agree with Garthe and others... the 450X is a great motorcycle but not the right bike for adventure touring.... the motor is not designed for piling on the miles the way you will in an adventure touring scenario.
There are lots of great bikes out there for adventure riding... your money would be better spent buying a dual sport or adventure bike if that is your intended use.
I agree. It's a great bike,powerhouse! But I think you should have went with a true dual sport,look what I jut picked up for $3,900 with 2,200mi.


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Old 08-13-2013, 07:14 AM   #27
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Nice 450, glad it's working out for you.

I was a few days away from buying the stuff to plate my crf450r when I stumbled into an xr650r and went with it. Still think about how much fun the 450 would be as a dual sport, even with my 'r' transmission ratios.

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Old 08-13-2013, 07:28 AM   #28
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I ride a 2,000 acre single track park and 98% dirt roads. My bike is set up for single track Sunday rides and dirt road fun. It's not a pavement pounder and would not treat it like one, I have done a few 125 miles ride on dirt that's the max for me. It's great to have dirt bike and street legal so I can ride to the riding park, play for an hour then cruise home.
Like having my own place that way. :)
But I really need 3 bikes, dirt, daulsport and road bike. :)


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Old 08-13-2013, 08:01 AM   #29
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But I really need 3 bikes, dirt, daulsport and road bike. :)

That's not enough, you need 5 according to Peter Egan.

Dual sport
Sportbike
Touring bike
Dirt bike*
Old bike

*I might be wrong here, can't remember if he said dirt bike or sport tourer.




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