GPS Tracker on bikes? - Page 2

GazzaFish · 08-25-2012, 11:12 PM

Ive ordered one of these off fleabay..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Cars-...#ht_5537wt_907

No reason i chose this one. At around $50, worth a gamble…

I'll let you know how it turns out for me..

Storm Shadow · 08-26-2012, 06:55 AM

i remember reading about a professional theifs confessions i think on here, and he said, thats what he first looks for, going to work on teh bike removing anything he could find like these, your confined in hiding them with a gps tracker too as you have to be ontop, has to have power, so they can follow the leads.

ive always thought of installing remote operated tear gas bombs and smoke flairs hidden inside the frame

B1 · 08-26-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Storm Shadow

i remember reading about a professional theifs confessions i think on here
ive always thought of installing remote operated tear gas bombs and smoke flairs hidden inside the frame

here's the ex-bike thief thread. makes for an interesting read.

i like the tear gas bombs and smoke flares. they'd look pretty cool if they accidentally triggered while riding, would look like a monster burnout with a bit of luck.

GazzaFish · 08-26-2012, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storm Shadow

i remember reading about a professional theifs confessions i think on here, and he said, thats what he first looks for, going to work on teh bike removing anything he could find like these, your confined in hiding them with a gps tracker too as you have to be ontop, has to have power, so they can follow the leads.

ive always thought of installing remote operated tear gas bombs and smoke flairs hidden inside the frame

I agree, it's no guarantee but at least it gives me a glimmer of hope if I ever get another bike stolen. I agree it would need to be up high for GPS but I think it would work using GPRS ANYWHERE on the bike as it would operate like a mobile phonbe I would imagine? If I hide it well enough and don;t advertise on the bike that it has a GPS tracker (or maybe I should advertise that fact??) then I think my chances are 50/50 it will help me and for $50, it's worth it i think...

JAWracing · 08-26-2012, 04:56 PM

Hi guys n gals,

My two cents worth (oops, round that up to five cents

), as bike owners, you should do whatever it takes to make your prized possession harder to take. This includes using a decent chain/lock to lock it to something else secure. You want to slow down the offender, which increases the time that they are there trying to take it, and might require them to make more noise to release your baby. Use an audible disc lock, so any sort of movement, will cause it to make noise, and at 3am, whilst we are dreaming of crossing the Simpson, this noise might be enough to wake you up and save the bike.

Do not assume that bike theives are that clever all the time, and will look for a GPS tracker. Bike stealing rings will "engage" muscle to break in and steal, whilst those with the brains are safe and preparing to strip / deactivate a bike once in a safer location, sometimes in underground car park type areas where phone/GPS signal is non-existent, so they can start the dismantling/rebirthing process.

The other type to take it will be those opportunistic, who see you wash your bike and park it out the front unattended, or leave the garage door wide open, advertising your toys n tools.

In closing, do whatever it takes to make it harder to take your bike, and do whatever it takes to avoid sleepless nights with worry.

Was this more than five cents worth..?? Hmmmmmmm

Oz Nutter · 08-26-2012, 08:27 PM

it works for the banks, how abut a dye bomb?
cover the offenders with chilli/dye etc

bend27 · 08-27-2012, 02:16 AM

itsgunnahurt · 08-27-2012, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oz Nutter

it works for the banks, how abut a dye bomb?
cover the offenders with chilli/dye etc

Chilli bomb, under the seat, shooting directly upwards?

Twomsta · 12-07-2012, 04:44 PM

I see the thread has gone quite over the past few months, but I'd appreciate it if anyone could clarify the coverage aspect of these trackers.

From what I understand, most of these cheaper compact gps trackers use GPS, GPRS and GSM networks and send off the coordinates either by preset time intervals or by being contacted by another phone. If the physical location of the tracking device is outside of the GPRS/GSM coverage network I assume that it won't receive the incoming call or message and will therefore fail to send out the coordinates...is this right?

If so, why would these devices be any better than say a smart phone that relies on the same networks (GPS/GPRS/GSM) and a tracking app such as life360?

I'm trying to decide what to take with me on my trip round Australia, but I don't particularly want to outlay the money for specific gps tracking plans such as those that are required for the SPOT trackers.

Cheers!

regie308 · 12-07-2012, 07:04 PM

another hiding idea.......

install a dummy gps tracker thats sort of easy to find, even make it look wired in..... then put the real one in a harder to find spot.

should increase the chances of even fooling the smarter ones!!

GazzaFish · 12-08-2012, 04:02 PM

OK, ive got my GPS tracker delivered but haven't installed it yet because well, I've been too lazy :)

Stay tuned, hopefully over the next few weeks I'll fit it and do a full review for you guys…

marlboroughlad · 12-08-2012, 04:18 PM

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If so, why would these devices be any better than say a smart phone that relies on the same networks (GPS/GPRS/GSM) and a tracking app such as life360?

?

You wanna hard wire a smart phone to your bike or just give the thief yours so you can catch him later? Obviously I missed something there?

Twomsta · 12-08-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by marlboroughlad

?

You wanna hard wire a smart phone to your bike or just give the thief yours so you can catch him later? Obviously I missed something there?

No I don't want to hard wire my smart phone into my bike. As I said, I'm doing a trip round Oz and am looking into GPS trackers so that friends and family can keep track of my movements, nothing to do with bike theft at all.

Anyone out there know the advantages of these gps trackers vs a smart phone with a track app? (FOR TRAVEL USE, NOT THEFT).

Thanks

955616846 · 12-08-2012, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twomsta

No I don't want to hard wire my smart phone into my bike. As I said, I'm doing a trip round Oz and am looking into GPS trackers so that friends and family can keep track of my movements, nothing to do with bike theft at all.

Anyone out there know the advantages of these gps trackers vs a smart phone with a track app? (FOR TRAVEL USE, NOT THEFT).

Thanks

For that just get a Spot plus the tracking subscription.

Around Oz, satellite based tracking has a clear advantage.... Telstra might advertise 90% (or whatever) population coverage, but 90% of the population lives in less than 10% of the area making mobile network based tracking useless for most of the country.

GazzaFish · 12-08-2012, 08:47 PM

Believe it or not, my SPOT tracker got stolen with my bike :( If they ever turned it on, i'd know where they are but they never did.

I realise the limitations of a SIM card based GPS tracker compared to a SPOT tracker (satellite) but at less then $50 and no subscription fee I think its worth doing. The GPS tracker I bought simply does best guess at its longitude and latitude based on satellite (and if it cant pick them up), using mobile phone towers etc.. Basically you send the tracker an SMS and all it does it send an SMS back with the longitude and latitude. It required a SIM card obviously so you'd need to buy a card with no expiry date etc..

Obviously the whole system only works if the bike is within mobile phone coverage area. As my bike is my daily ride, I am working on the theory that i'd know its been stolen within a couple of hours and I am also assuming that whoever stole it would probably quickly store it in a garage somewhere in which case i might have a chance. All good in theory…..

08-26-2012, 04:56 PM	#20
JAWracing n00bsticle Joined: Jul 2012 Location: Southern Highlands, NSW, Australia Oddometer: 16	Is a GPS tracker worth doing? Hi guys n gals, My two cents worth (oops, round that up to five cents ), as bike owners, you should do whatever it takes to make your prized possession harder to take. This includes using a decent chain/lock to lock it to something else secure. You want to slow down the offender, which increases the time that they are there trying to take it, and might require them to make more noise to release your baby. Use an audible disc lock, so any sort of movement, will cause it to make noise, and at 3am, whilst we are dreaming of crossing the Simpson, this noise might be enough to wake you up and save the bike. Do not assume that bike theives are that clever all the time, and will look for a GPS tracker. Bike stealing rings will "engage" muscle to break in and steal, whilst those with the brains are safe and preparing to strip / deactivate a bike once in a safer location, sometimes in underground car park type areas where phone/GPS signal is non-existent, so they can start the dismantling/rebirthing process. The other type to take it will be those opportunistic, who see you wash your bike and park it out the front unattended, or leave the garage door wide open, advertising your toys n tools. In closing, do whatever it takes to make it harder to take your bike, and do whatever it takes to avoid sleepless nights with worry. Was this more than five cents worth..?? Hmmmmmmm __________________ If you never give up, then you can never fail.

08-26-2012, 08:27 PM	#21
Oz Nutter Swagman Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Australia - Great Southern Land Oddometer: 629	dye bomb? it works for the banks, how abut a dye bomb? cover the offenders with chilli/dye etc

12-07-2012, 04:44 PM	#24
Twomsta n00b Joined: Jun 2012 Location: Newcastle NSW Oddometer: 7	Coverage? I see the thread has gone quite over the past few months, but I'd appreciate it if anyone could clarify the coverage aspect of these trackers. From what I understand, most of these cheaper compact gps trackers use GPS, GPRS and GSM networks and send off the coordinates either by preset time intervals or by being contacted by another phone. If the physical location of the tracking device is outside of the GPRS/GSM coverage network I assume that it won't receive the incoming call or message and will therefore fail to send out the coordinates...is this right? If so, why would these devices be any better than say a smart phone that relies on the same networks (GPS/GPRS/GSM) and a tracking app such as life360? I'm trying to decide what to take with me on my trip round Australia, but I don't particularly want to outlay the money for specific gps tracking plans such as those that are required for the SPOT trackers. Cheers!

12-07-2012, 07:04 PM	#25
regie308 TEAM SEWING MACHINE Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Oddometer: 1,401	another hiding idea....... install a dummy gps tracker thats sort of easy to find, even make it look wired in..... then put the real one in a harder to find spot. should increase the chances of even fooling the smarter ones!! __________________ My current ride: *2011 HUSKY TE 511* My old rides: *2009* *XT660Z TÉNÉRÉ - 2000 WR400 - 1992 TT350* My FAVORITE ride: GRANTS MUM!........ IT's NOT GAY!... UNLESS THE BALL's TOUCH

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08-25-2012, 11:12 PM	#16
GazzaFish ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, AUS Oddometer: 482	Ive ordered one of these off fleabay.. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Cars-...#ht_5537wt_907 No reason i chose this one. At around $50, worth a gamble… I'll let you know how it turns out for me..

08-26-2012, 06:55 AM	#17
Storm Shadow Thread Ninja Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Arashikage Clan Oddometer: 1,140	i remember reading about a professional theifs confessions i think on here, and he said, thats what he first looks for, going to work on teh bike removing anything he could find like these, your confined in hiding them with a gps tracker too as you have to be ontop, has to have power, so they can follow the leads. ive always thought of installing remote operated tear gas bombs and smoke flairs hidden inside the frame

08-27-2012, 02:16 AM	#22
bend27 Aprentice Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: in trading halt Oddometer: 1,053

12-08-2012, 04:02 PM	#26
GazzaFish ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, AUS Oddometer: 482	OK, ive got my GPS tracker delivered but haven't installed it yet because well, I've been too lazy :) Stay tuned, hopefully over the next few weeks I'll fit it and do a full review for you guys…

12-08-2012, 08:47 PM	#30
GazzaFish ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, AUS Oddometer: 482	Believe it or not, my SPOT tracker got stolen with my bike :( If they ever turned it on, i'd know where they are but they never did. I realise the limitations of a SIM card based GPS tracker compared to a SPOT tracker (satellite) but at less then $50 and no subscription fee I think its worth doing. The GPS tracker I bought simply does best guess at its longitude and latitude based on satellite (and if it cant pick them up), using mobile phone towers etc.. Basically you send the tracker an SMS and all it does it send an SMS back with the longitude and latitude. It required a SIM card obviously so you'd need to buy a card with no expiry date etc.. Obviously the whole system only works if the bike is within mobile phone coverage area. As my bike is my daily ride, I am working on the theory that i'd know its been stolen within a couple of hours and I am also assuming that whoever stole it would probably quickly store it in a garage somewhere in which case i might have a chance. All good in theory…..