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Old 01-03-2013, 11:00 AM   #601
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Thanks, I did read the whole thread a couple of weeks ago but forgot where I saw those pictures. The H&B bags are nice and clean, the other ones from the Japanese company look like the were stolen off of Ponch's bike on that 70's show "Chip's", yuck!
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:02 AM   #602
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:39 AM   #603
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I'm waiting to see some real world mpg figures. As long as it has a range of around 200 miles I will be fine with the tiny tank.
" Returning 6 litres per 100km economy the 14.6 litre tank is only good for a 240km range to empty. A fuel gauge is thankfully provided so you can keep an eye on things."
Quote from a review on motorcyclespecs.co.za website.

That level of consumption equals 39mpg (usgallon)... 240km equals around 150 miles per tank (3.5gal tank). Doesn't look like it will meet your needs, of 200 mles.per tank.

A bike would need to get 60mpg to make the 200 mile mark. Only bike I've had recently that would do that was a KLX250S dual sport. tomp dd50
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:35 PM   #604
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I hate to be blunt, but you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. Wees are fuel-injected for chrissakes.

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Wow Mark, over-react much?
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:37 PM   #605
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well ya gotta admit, that would tend to complicate any carb work...
So that's what I was doing wrong! Don't drink and post.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:48 PM   #606
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A bike would need to get 60mpg to make the 200 mile mark. Only bike I've had recently that would do that was a KLX250S dual sport. tomp dd50
Or just be pre-planned correctly with a fuel tank capable of going the miles. Bigger bike/motor? Bigger tank.

I'm somewhat surprised that at least one Japanese company hasn't come up with the option, yet, of a larger or smaller tank on some capable bike. Smaller for city folks / stunters, larger for mileage mongers. With the right bike it could make one model easily applicable and sellable to a much larger number of customers. (I would argue that Harley is ahead of Japanese on this concept - maybe to larger and smaller extents over the years)

This is simply one mistake I refuse to make with any bike worthy of me making payments on - there is no call for being dumb about it, buying a bike that drives ya nuts on trips, and then selling it due to lack of foresight.

I'll understand tiny tanks on all-out sport bikes, but anything else... Negative. The trade-offs they make for styling could easily be adjusted for in those who worry about weight to just not fill their tanks upthe whole way.

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Old 01-03-2013, 02:11 PM   #607
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Honda's two new lines, NC700 and CB500, are both rated at 64 mpg, The 500's have 4.5 gal tanks giving around 285 miles, the NC700"s have 3.7 gal tanks giving around 235 miles. Both tanks larger than their 1100cc bike, go figure. I guess fashion over form for the 1100...

Ginger beard, those both fit the criteria of 200 miles. Not retro looking I4's but probably gonna be great bikes at rather low MSRP's... tp
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:20 PM   #608
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One of those old really smart Greek guys (Socrates, Plato?) said something like "proportion is the essence of beauty"

The CB1100's mission first and foremost is to be beautiful, and in that regard it suceeds mightily, at least in my opinion.

It seems to me there are two kinds of motorcycle buyers. There are the "right brain" buyers who make such decisions primarily on an emotional basis. These folks will not care about the shortcomings. They will make whatever adjustments are necessary to make it work for as long as possible. Then there are the "left brain" buyers. They make these decisions based on a logical basis. They want to find the bike that has the fewest shortcomings.

The aftermarket may eventually offer a different tank that looks good and can carry another gallon of gas. Some enterprising type will find a way to take a bigger tank from a different bike and make it work. Then there are always options like Rotopax (sp?) that allow you to carry some extra gas along on those road trips. The point is, you can make it work if you want to. I did a 10 day trip out west with some other guys a couple of years ago. One of the guys was riding a 1970 Norton with a 2.5 gallon tank. He got there and back, and rode just as many miles as anyone else.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:51 AM   #610
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:03 AM   #611
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One of those old really smart Greek guys (Socrates, Plato?) said something like "proportion is the essence of beauty"

The CB1100's mission first and foremost is to be beautiful, and in that regard it suceeds mightily, at least in my mind.

The aftermarket may eventually offer a different tank that looks good and can carry another gallon of gas. Some enterprising type will find a way to take a bigger tank from a different bike and make it work. Then there are always options like Rotopax (sp?) that allow you to carry some extra gas along on those road trips. The point is, you can make it work if you want to. I did a 10 day trip out west with some other guys a couple of years ago. One of the guys was riding a 1970 Norton with a 2.5 gallon tank. He got there and back, and rode just as many miles as anyone else.


Yeah, I used to ride cross country on a peanut tank Sportster. When riding all day and/or night stops every 150 to 200 miles work out fine for me.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:12 AM   #612
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What a shame that Honda is launching this new model with Canadian MSRP 20% higher than the US ($13,200 vs $11,000). With our dollars at par, seems like they'd realize that they'd sell more at lower retail, and increased volume would offset the increased costs of selling bikes in a smaller market (than the US).

And only in white? Offering Red and black would sell more bikes.

This is the bike I would have bought when I bought my CBF, had it been available (and had it been discounted 30% like leftover gen 1 CBFs were in 2010). I guess I'll get my chance when these are discounted in a year or 2, once the initial surge of purchasers has subsided.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:14 AM   #613
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No wonder no manufacturers bring bikes like this to the States (or Canada).... you all are a tough crowd......

Am I the only person that's extremely excited about this bike?
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:25 AM   #614
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No wonder no manufacturers bring bikes like this to the States (or Canada).... you all are a tough crowd......

Am I the only person that's extremely excited about this bike?
If I wasn't interested, I wouldn't care about the Canadian price and lack of color options. The CB1100 is the sexiest bike in years that is also rational for my wants / needs.

But a $2,200 premium, when the Cdn$ is same value as the US$, is a lot of extra money, which would be useful for accessories, gas, etc.

How expensive would it be for Honda to offer gas tanks in a couple different colors? The tank looks to be the only color-specific part on the whole bike.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:27 AM   #615
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I actually like the white tank alot.

Like I stated earlier, if someone from up there wants to swap with me, I'd be game!
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