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Old 01-07-2013, 10:54 AM   #661
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I don't think the size of the tank is worth arguing over. My point is, it shouldn't be a deal breaker.
I've got a 60 mile RT commute, regardless of tank size, any bike I would ever think of getting would need to get at least 200 miles out of a tankfull. Just got my most recent copy of Motorcyclist and they said that Honda modeled the CB in 3/4 scale to mimic the 70's CB's. I had a CB400F and that was a sweet little bike, emphasis on little, for practicality's sake, I'd wish Honda would quit the trend of "downsizing" - ie the CBR 1000 is the same size as the CBR600 - like this is a good thing.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:21 PM   #662
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ie the CBR 1000 is the same size as the CBR600 - like this is a good thing.
Why should the Fireblade be any larger than it has to be? It's a performance oriented motorcycle, not a tourer with one's comfort and leg room in mind. There's enough high power, high handing bikes on the market that you no longer have to get a sport bike if you want a spirited, thoroughbred mount.

The CBR600RR and CBR1000RR aren't about practicality, and the average sized human will fit on one as well as any other sport bike on the market.

That said, I'm not a fan of the relative petite nature of the CB, but the bike wasn't designed with the American market as its focus. We don't buy these types of bikes in large enough quantity for most companies to bother trying to make sure a subset of a subset of the buying American public is satisfied. I fully expect to see ZERO CB1100's in the wild in my area (a shame), and I'm not even sure the local Honda dealer will be getting any in.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:46 PM   #663
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the bike wasn't designed with the American market as its focus. We don't buy these types of bikes in large enough quantity for most companies to bother trying to make sure a subset of a subset of the buying American public is satisfied. I fully expect to see ZERO CB1100's in the wild in my area (a shame), and I'm not even sure the local Honda dealer will be getting any in.
Resale, that's the one thing that scares me...It fits me perfectly and I want one BAD but I have had 45+ bikes in 27 years. This is a perfect bike for someone who will buy it and keep it for many years. I am going to wait a few months and see how my lust for this bike changes. If I still want it as bad in October, I may jump.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:32 PM   #664
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May want to check here for personal fit. Go to Honda and click on CB1100 2010. For me, at 5'10" and 30" inseam, I have a 10 degree forward lean and a 78 degree knee bend. The 10 degree lean is ok, but the 78 degree knee bend is rather cramped for me. The same knee bend as a CBR600RR. for me. With the CB's lower forward lean compared to the CBR's 33 degrees, it will place more weight onto the hips and increase the cramped feeling in the knees even more. Just saying.....
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:22 PM   #665
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Thanks Eddy & Dirtdreamer. Yes, time will tell. I'll know more when I can sit on one but I suspect it's going to be a wee bit too small for me. My GSs fit me well and my current bike, a Triumph Explorer does too after adding bar risers and dropping the pegs a bit.


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As you already know, in 2007, the bike was designed as a domestic only bike for Honda. That being said, it was designed to comfortably fit the average 5'5" (165.5 cm) Japanese man. The average American male is 5'9" (175.5 cm) and you are 6'4"...you get the picture. Nonetheless, sit on it for 15 minutes and decide. A couple of 6' tall men did say that it felt petite, while another grey haired man who was at least 6'2" and over 60 years old, loved it and said that he was putting down a deposit this week.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:38 PM   #666
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I'll know more when I can sit on one but I suspect it's going to be a wee bit too small for me.
Don't forget that the tubular bars are a super easy change and I am sure there is an aftermarket foot lowering kit, if not a machine shop could fabricate a 1" lower spacer to fit you.

You can start looking here, A LOT of goodies for the CB: http://japan.webike.net/HONDA/CB1100/311/mtop/
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:01 PM   #667
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Y'all need to quit yer whining. You need to buy this bike because it's cool and unique. If you want a tourer get a Bandit or something.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:17 PM   #668
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http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Hon...100/Review.htm
I've kept up with the thread since the beginning, but don't remember if this has been linked. Very good review with both good and bad, but no ugly was found...

On touring. It has three usable gallons before worrying, and at 40 mpg US, that's stopping every 120 miles. Three gallons takes maybe 5 minutes to pump, at the most, paying inside. So a 500 mile day may take 20 minutes longer. A couple of bathroom /Coke breaks take the same. I'm sure it can tour all day long...tp
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:47 PM   #669
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Resale, that's the one thing that scares me...It fits me perfectly and I want one BAD but I have had 45+ bikes in 27 years. This is a perfect bike for someone who will buy it and keep it for many years. I am going to wait a few months and see how my lust for this bike changes. If I still want it as bad in October, I may jump.



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Old 01-07-2013, 10:54 PM   #670
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Resale, that's the one thing that scares me...It fits me perfectly and I want one BAD but I have had 45+ bikes in 27 years. This is a perfect bike for someone who will buy it and keep it for many years. I am going to wait a few months and see how my lust for this bike changes. If I still want it as bad in October, I may jump.
Man, I've had 50 in 44 years and though I was bike crazy... RedRocket is right, you'll have one, soon....tp
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:08 PM   #671
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As you already know, in 2007, the bike was designed as a domestic only bike for Honda. That being said, it was designed to comfortably fit the average 5'5" (165.5 cm) Japanese man. The average American male is 5'9" (175.5 cm) and you are 6'4"...you get the picture.
You sound like quite the authority on this, by chance do you have any information to back this claim up?

Personally typical of standard hondas of late I find the handle barrage too much sweep but are at a decent height.
The footage hip bar triangle is doable for the targeted use of the bike. But if I was going to be putting miles on the bike I'd add more foam to the seat.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:31 AM   #672
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This price disparity between the two markets is about the same across all bikes, cars, etc. so while what you say is true, I don't think it has much to do with Honda or the CB1100....
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If I threw a guess out there (as I'm about to), I'd say that it has something to do with having a smaller pool to spread the Canada-specific costs with importation across. Sure, they could combine the US and Canadian costs for whatever the two gov't's want and then divide it equally across the total pool of sales. But, heck, the US is already funding most of Canada's defense strategy--being north of the US--and they get better looking girls on average... So screw 'em!

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Old 01-08-2013, 02:56 AM   #673
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On touring. It has three usable gallons before worrying, and at 40 mpg US, that's stopping every 120 miles. Three gallons takes maybe 5 minutes to pump, at the most, paying inside. So a 500 mile day may take 20 minutes longer. A couple of bathroom /Coke breaks take the same. I'm sure it can tour all day long...tp
As has been said many times, the desire for a bigger tank for touring seldom has anything to do with saving time on gas fillups - it has to do with sweating whether you have the range to make the next fuel stop. When stations start being spaced out an average of 50 miles apart rather than 20 miles, things start to get a lot more dicey, especially at night. And the headwinds you sometimes encounter out W can take mileage from the 40's into the 20's. A capacity of 3.9 gal is not a deal-breaker and you can generally work around it, but it is at least a minor PITA if you want to tour with this bike. If was doing cross-country work with this bike in the Western US, I'd carry fuel bottles.

The original CB750 had a 4.7 gal tank. I think Honda should have at least matched this.

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Old 01-08-2013, 06:30 AM   #674
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As has been said many times, the desire for a bigger tank for touring seldom has anything to do with saving time on gas fillups - it has to do with sweating whether you have the range to make the next fuel stop. When stations start being spaced out an average of 50 miles apart rather than 20 miles, things start to get a lot more dicey, especially at night. And the headwinds you sometimes encounter out W can take mileage from the 40's into the 20's. A capacity of 3.9 gal is not a deal-breaker and you can generally work around it, but it is at least a minor PITA if you want to tour with this bike. If was doing cross-country work with this bike in the Western US, I'd carry fuel bottles.

The original CB750 had a 4.7 gal tank. I think Honda should have at least matched this.

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Mark, I understand all that. Living in Texas, I've worried about gas on a 5 gallon bike, but after reading RR about an 86 Radian with a 3 gallon tank going from Va to Ak and back, I was just saying that anything can tour with good planning and some spare gas carried along. Done it myself, carried gas that is, not toured to Ak.

I agree that the 69 turtle tank would have been a better choice, but looks like Honda was going after the 78 look not the '69. Shame they didn't ask us, the potential buyers, what we would like to have....tp
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:03 AM   #675
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You sound like quite the authority on this, by chance do you have any information to back this claim up?
LOL! I am hardly an "authority", more like a motorcycle geek with bad OCD and too much time on my hands. Once I get fixated on a bike, it's on! I research it like mad until I can find nothing new on the subject.
And my 45 bike claim is probably at least 50 by now. The good news is that I have a great wife who understands that half of my motorcycling thrill is researching, hunting, buying and farkling bikes. I enjoy them for a few months or a year or two and then sell them for what I have in them, or a little more. I have only gotten back less money a few times.

Read the first lines in these links: "Domestic only." Domestic only is great news for us as historically, this means better fit and finish, paint, etc... The big Four, especially mighty Honda, loves to flex it's muscles and put out super high quality stuff for the Japan only market.

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...013/20906.html

http://www.ridelust.com/honda-cb1100...in-california/

Another AU article: http://www.mctrader.com.au/news-and-...eid/77693.aspx
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