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Old 01-11-2013, 04:19 PM   #736
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Which brings up another point, why is the CB1100 so darn heavy? Almost 550 pounds for an air cooled mill. Even a Bonnie is under 500 pounds.
Spec is 540-lbs w/fuel (spec for the non-ABS) which is more/less in line with what you'd expect for 1100cc inline-four. That's about what earlier inline-four air-cooled bikes weighed. Yes, the Bonny specs 45-lbs lighter, but you'd expect that for a twin vs. an inline-four as well as a bike that has about 30% more displacement and power. There are also detail changes that add weight like using alloy rather than plastic fenders.

All in all, its weight is more or less consistent with the spec. I doubt Honda has spent a great deal of time trying to shave weight from the design as the small savings aren't worth the trouble - this is a bike that sells on looks more than performance.

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Old 01-11-2013, 11:03 PM   #737
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don't think it was posted but honda is saying March for the CB.
http://powersports.honda.com/experie...081175e2d.aspx

Gee we get to pay $2200 more for the same model.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:25 PM   #738
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In this episode of Cleveland Moto, towards the end of the podcast they do a side by side comparison between the upcoming cb1100 and the old early 80's one. It's kind of interesting.
Podcast 12.03.12
Listened to the whole podcast. Interesting overall info. I mentioned similar comparisons between the 83 and the 13 1100's some posts back, and also wondered why so much less, costs so much more. Guess they are selling nostalgia, and at a premium. Except for the blocky 80's look of the F, I would rather own/ride it over the 13. One tenth the dollar amount to insure it compared to the new model is great, too. Oh well, guess I will wait a few months to make my decision.

If you are really interested in the 1100, take the time and listen the the podcast mikesova posted. It does put the 1100 into perspective. tomp dd50
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:09 AM   #739
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Gee we get to pay $2200 more for the same model.
Cry me a river
I paid $1100 for my wife's CT scan yesterday in our non single payer privately operated scam of a medical system. . Even with "health insurance" I run the risk of bankruptcy if I fall off my motorcycle in the Land of the Free (we are decidedly brave).
Oh and the privately run efficent, non-socialised hospital has lost the results. Can't find 'em...
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:27 AM   #740
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Listened to the whole podcast. Interesting overall info. I mentioned similar comparisons between the 83 and the 13 1100's some posts back, and also wondered why so much less, costs so much more. Guess they are selling nostalgia, and at a premium. Except for the blocky 80's look of the F, I would rather own/ride it over the 13. One tenth the dollar amount to insure it compared to the new model is great, too. Oh well, guess I will wait a few months to make my decision.

If you are really interested in the 1100, take the time and listen the the podcast mikesova posted. It does put the 1100 into perspective. tomp dd50
I haven't owned a CB1100F, but I have owned a 750 & 900F. Personally, at this point in my life I'd take the '13 1100 all day long over the 83. I'm sure the 83 is faster, and it'is a "real" vintage bike. But let me tell you about the reality of owning one of these.

Both my 750 & 900 were purchased as running survivors, for not a lot of scratch. But to get them truly roadworthy, here are some of the things I had to do: Rebuild carbs, new steering head bearings, swing arm bushings, adjust valves, rebuild brakes, and a bunch of things I've worked very hard to forget. The thing to remember is the originals are now old bikes. One that's been ridden will most likely have a lot of deferred maintenance and will need a bunch of work. Even a low mile example. And even once you get all the work done, it's still an old bike so if you ride far from home, you'd better have a backup plan for when it breaks down. I know that can happen to any bike, but lets face it, it's more likely on an older bike.

For me, I'd rather spend my time riding. That's why I got rid of mine and got a newer bike. I wish Honda had brought this bike here sooner, I would have had one.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:54 AM   #741
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seat to peg & handlebar height

I've been wondering about the size of this bike too. (I'm 6'4" w/34" inseam). You're right about the dish in the seat and something like an Airhawk could compensate for that at least a bit. One would then need to raise the handlebars though or the forward lean angle would be bothersome (at least for this 61 y/o back of mine).

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a saw this bike at the Mpls. Motor show this afternoon, 'very nice bike an apt to be an instant classic.
It is a bit small (I'm 6'2") but no more than most retro standards (W, T100, V7 etc). Much of that
seems due to the seat which must be dished down a couple of inches in the front. Building that up to
a nice level platform should open it up nicely. In terms of buyers, judging from the folks looking
hard at it I'd say it breaks 1/3 hipper 20's something's to 2/3rd's 50+ use-to or wanted-to-have
a CB750. Don't count it out too quickly. It's the nicest standard I've seen in a while an unlike most,
it's not trying to be a clone of the old bike, "modern standard" is well put: it touches back
to memory but does not try to relive it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:57 AM   #742
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Cry me a river
I paid $1100 for my wife's CT scan yesterday in our non single payer privately operated scam of a medical system. . Even with "health insurance" I run the risk of bankruptcy if I fall off my motorcycle in the Land of the Free (we are decidedly brave).
Oh and the privately run efficent, non-socialised hospital has lost the results. Can't find 'em...

Gosh....if only there was that single-payer system you wouldn't have to worry about any bill, because you'd be waiting a year for that CT scan. And if you run the risk of bankruptcy if you fall off your motorcycle, I'd suggest either getting better insurance or stop riding. Nothing personal, but I don't want to subsidize you.

As to the CB1100, I sat on it at the Mpls motorcycle show. It WAS smaller than I expected. I liked it (I used to own a cb750F way back when)...but I wouldn't buy one. There's just too much cooler stuff out there, and the rear tire is decidedly 1980s skinny. I imagine it wouldn't last long under heavier load, etc.

I looks beautiful though. MUCH better than the new 700. But my heart was smitten by the on-off 250. Fun to see Honda getting some nice new variety in the mix.

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Old 01-12-2013, 09:18 AM   #743
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Inmate MarcJ Just posted a awesome set of pictures from the Brussels show.
About 1/4 of the way down is what I think is the European version. Pearl white with a light silver or natural finish motor/ trans.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=854982
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:01 PM   #744
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Meh, why bother? There's a bunch of ZRX's around for cheap and with a Holeshot kit will put out some fairly respectable numbers.
For $4-5000 with mods you can get the retro right out of your system and have a nicer looking bike IMO.

Agreed. I want to like this Honda but cant get there. Now if it was a CB1300...
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:39 PM   #745
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If this was a clone of the original SOHC CB750, I would buy one no matter what. This one looks nice, way better than all the futuristic looking junk Honda is turning out, like the CB500 and the NC700X (hey, if you like that stuff, fine, but it is definitely NOT for me) At least it looks like a motorcycle, though it lacks the beauty and elegance of the original. I don't really care what it weighs, nor do I care much about it's handling and performance, as long as they are acceptable. A top of the line Bonnie also costs about $10K, and this thing should blow the wheels off it. Again for me it comes down to comfort. Is this a bike that can be ridden 500-600 miles a day without causing severe pain? If so, I will definitely give it serious consideration. To me, almost every street bike I've ever owned was mostly used as a touring bike. Both standards and cruisers are ideal for this purpose.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:49 AM   #746
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It cracks me up. When this bike wasn't available in the States people were bitching about us not getting bikes, etc. Now that its coming here people are bitching about this and that, before they've even seen, sat on or test rode one.
Come on guys, give it a chance.
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:01 AM   #747
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Most folks on this forum.....

...are a bunch of whiners.

I don't like this....I don't like that...why didn't they do this...why did they do that.......

To quote TR:

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

STFU and get out and RIDE!!!!

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Old 01-13-2013, 06:22 AM   #748
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It cracks me up. When this bike wasn't available in the States people were bitching about us not getting bikes, etc. Now that its coming here people are bitching about this and that, before they've even seen, sat on or test rode one.
Come on guys, give it a chance.
This always happens on a new release. The truth is 90% of the people on here wouldn't buy this bike if it were $5,000 But its easy to bitch or complain.
I love to talk about them, but when I hear the words "deal breaker"..then I have to call bs.
Fact is every single motorized vehicle I have ever driven, or rode..needed to be different in some way..for me
Even my second car a "69 383 Super Bee..use to twist my shorts knowing another guy in my high school had a "69 with the 440 sixpack..bastard
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:27 AM   #749
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LOL, true.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:00 AM   #750
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So I just saw two things... I guess I should have guessed it, but yes - it is a chain drive.

IMHO, chain drives are a pain in the ass for lubing and such unless we're talking about the oh-so-rare bike that comes with a proper center stand... but then I saw the CB1100's have center stands.

I'm sold. I want one - I can live with a long-distance bike that has a chain if it has a center stand just fine. I still think the fuel tank is small, but... it is what it is.
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