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Old 12-11-2012, 03:15 AM   #16
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skipping gears ?

It's impossible to skip a gear on a motorcycle gearbox. You can only go one gear at a time and the gear lever has to return to its normal position between each gear before you can go to the next. It's not like a car gearbox, hence the name sequential.

It is possible however to go through more than one gear without letting the clutch out in between but that gear lever still needs to spring back between each gear.

For normal stopping or slowing, you should clutch out between each gear relative to your speed and use a little throttle blip while the clutch is in, in between gears to smoothen things out by matching the engine revs with the next gear down. Known as engine braking, this will assist your brakes to slow the bike and save your brake materials.

You should always have your position, speed and gear right before making a turn.

For quick stops however ( eg emergency or hazard avoidance), forget the clutch out between gears, Just tap down through each gear as you are slowing and leave the clutch in. (concentrate on your braking) Double tap the lever to make sure you have reached first gear (you'll feel resitance in the lever and it won't go through any more gears) by the time you have stopped, in case you need to get out of there again fast...
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:21 AM   #17
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If you down shift too much for the speed even if you do not let out the clutch you are overspeeding gears in the transmission, and clutch. It is possible to explode a clutch basket in these cases. Make a new habit to let out clutch after every downshift. You are going to end up on the pavement someday if you let this bad habit persist..

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Old 12-11-2012, 06:57 AM   #18
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I like the blip too...helps
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:14 AM   #19
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I like the blip too...helps
blip before downshift?
I'm still wondering if I'm hurting my bike by doing this
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:21 PM   #20
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blip before downshift?
I'm still wondering if I'm hurting my bike by doing this
Not if you are getting your timing right. How can it hurt your bike ? It is harder on your bikes driveline by not blipping.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:32 AM   #21
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i just do it naturally...you see the moto gp guys, mx racers etc...d o it...now that I think about it I cant remember exactly when I do it...it just helps me do the gear change dont know

blip away folks!

clutch in obviously...

it also helps on some bikes when you have a sticky neutral...you blip the throttle with the clutch in and it helps skip into first...depends on your bike thats all

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Old 12-12-2012, 08:55 AM   #22
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+3 on engine braking. The less you rely on brakes, and more on downshifting, the easier it is to break the habit of downshifting through too many gears with the clutch in. Downshifting one gear at a time, you can be pretty aggressive without hurting the bike. I used to break the rear tire loose all the time on my XL600R.

I tend to use rev matched downshifts (blipping) on the Aprilia, simply because the v-twin sounds so good (it also saves the clutch). The other day, I had been riding for 8+ hours and was in "the zone", downshifting to 7K rpm's with my wife on the back into corners. Man it felt good, and safe. It's been a while since I had a day like that.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:57 AM   #23
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^^^nice!
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:40 AM   #24
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If you down shift too much for the speed even if you do not let out the clutch you are overspeeding gears in the transmission, and clutch. It is possible to explode a clutch basket in these cases. Make a new habit to let out clutch after every downshift. You are going to end up on the pavement someday if you let this bad habit persist..

Rod
ive been going one gear at a time lately.

are you sure about the thing with the clutch still in though? ive never heard of that
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:05 PM   #25
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Not if you are getting your timing right. How can it hurt your bike ? It is harder on your bikes driveline by not blipping.
I always follow this rule:
if it's fun and or it sounds good it's probably bad.

but now that you mention it. parts turning equal speeds are not moving relative to each other. less friction = happy clutch and gearbox
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