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Old 03-18-2013, 07:05 AM   #1
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Airhead tire question

Wondering what to do about replacing the tires on my R75. When I look modern tires are of the tubeless type for mag wheels but what about something for a tube type spoke wheel. Can (should) I run a tubeless tire WITH a tube? Should I try to find something more period correct if all I am doing with the bike is general back roads riding and light touring? What are you guys running?

Any thoughts would be welcome!
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:24 AM   #2
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Wondering what to do about replacing the tires on my R75. When I look modern tires are of the tubeless type for mag wheels but what about something for a tube type spoke wheel. Can (should) I run a tubeless tire WITH a tube? Should I try to find something more period correct if all I am doing with the bike is general back roads riding and light touring? What are you guys running?

Any thoughts would be welcome!

Take advantage of improvements and buy good tyres. Yes, tubeless with a tube is ok.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:16 AM   #3
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So then I guess the tube is strong enough to push the heavy sidewall of a tubeless tire out to the bead on the rim, cool! Thanks! Are you running a certain brand?
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:18 AM   #4
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I've been running tubes in tubeless tires for years on my Supermoto XR650R as well as the R100/7.
Couple of tips. Seal the spoke nipples by wrapping the rim center with duct tape.
Place a thin flat steel or aluminum washer, followed by a rubber washer, on the valve stem before you install the tube. Finish it off with the same arrangement, in reverse, on the outside of the rim cinching the nut down snugly against the washers. This will seal the valve stem to the rim and make the tire act like it's tubeless if you get a puncture.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:21 AM   #5
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Do a search, there's been tons of info on this. I really like my Michelin Pilot Activs. Alternatively, I've used Avons and BT45s on my other bike and liked them a lot too. Period tires suck.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:34 AM   #6
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Most tires nowadays are the tubeless design, and as noted, can be used with a tube. The side-effect (or downside, if you will) is that the beads are made much stiffer and the sidewalls less flexible to work as a tubeless. That downside is the tire will be harder to change manually (when you spoon the new tire on, or repair a flat). Longer 16" tire tools help, as does a true tire lubricant (RuGlyde, at your local NAPA store). The less-flexible sidewall means it will be harder to fish the tire valve stem through the hole in the rim. There is a steel cable tire valve tool that helps with this.

Not impossible, you just need to apply more grunt...

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Old 03-18-2013, 09:07 AM   #7
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Modern tyres have grippier rubber and seem to be more stable than the tyres of old. I currently like the Michelin pilot actives which are available in the right sizes for our bikes.

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Old 03-18-2013, 09:19 AM   #8
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AVon Roadriders have done me well, 11,000k and some change, must've made that set extra thick? I ride alone and with minimal luggage. I would like something more agressive for my next set though.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:45 AM   #9
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And new tires tend to follow rain grooves and "longitudinal road imperfections" much less. I was astounded when I changed from "traditional" Conti's to Avon Roadriders.

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Excellent fellas! thanks for all the great input, guess I will ditch the idea of period correctness and go for more modern performance!
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:12 PM   #11
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While you're at it, check out the prices of Bridgestone S-11 Spitfires. They are dual compound rubber, harder in the centers, and I've gotten truly impressive mileage out of mine.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:13 PM   #12
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AVon Roadriders have done me well, 11,000k and some change, must've made that set extra thick? I ride alone and with minimal luggage. I would like something more agressive for my next set though.
+1000 I love these tires.

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Old 03-18-2013, 03:08 PM   #13
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michelin pilot activs in the correct bmw sizes, great tyres
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michelin pilot activs in the correct bmw sizes, great tyres
+1 Michelin Pilot Activs work well for me.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:01 PM   #15
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And don't use period tyre pressures......36 front and around 40 rear seems to work well for most modern tyres
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