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Old 10-15-2012, 12:47 PM   #46
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I have both a Ohlins equipped GSA & a new Camhead with ESA. You are making the right choice. Simply no comparison for this 200lb rider. I plan to put non ESA Ohlins on the Camhead so I can adjust front & rear independently, the way it should be.
Several others have told me the same thing, glad to see it confirmed once again! Tough to find a non-ESA model, waiting for a dealer to step up now. Have RFQ's out to 4 dealers, we'll see who can produce. Lots of push back against ordering one... If anyone knows a great dealer anywhere in the US that would like this simple cash deal let me know.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:57 PM   #47
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:04 AM   #48
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My question is. Is there a way to dial the preload in before one enguages ESA. That way for heaver riders the one up, two up, and luggage mode makes sense. Otherwise one uses the rider with luggage to get the single rider setting close. And so on.
I was just wondering the same thing - thought I'd resurrect this thread and see if anyone has any additional info since it was posted. I weigh about 160, so a good bit lighter than the 175-180 lbs nominal weight rider these ESA shocks were apparently designed for. I am finding the overall ride on the harsh side, solo or two up. Two up is a bit better, I can adjust to 1+luggage, rather than 2up, and it feels like it's about where it should be. But for solo work I'm feeling like there's just too high a spring rate.

Too bad they didn't set up the computer to sense the load and baseline the sag. (Guess that's closer to what D/ESA does).

Anyway, sounds like re-springing isn't an option on the stockers. Would rather not bite off $2-3k for Ohlins or whatever else is out there. Anyone come up with other options?
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:07 AM   #49
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I was just wondering the same thing - thought I'd resurrect this thread and see if anyone has any additional info since it was posted. I weigh about 160, so a good bit lighter than the 175-180 lbs nominal weight rider these ESA shocks were apparently designed for. I am finding the overall ride on the harsh side, solo or two up. Two up is a bit better, I can adjust to 1+luggage, rather than 2up, and it feels like it's about where it should be. But for solo work I'm feeling like there's just too high a spring rate.

Too bad they didn't set up the computer to sense the load and baseline the sag. (Guess that's closer to what D/ESA does).

Anyway, sounds like re-springing isn't an option on the stockers. Would rather not bite off $2-3k for Ohlins or whatever else is out there. Anyone come up with other options?
I haven't heard of a re-spring option out there for stock suspenders. Ohlins is probably the best way to go. You could always buy Ohlins in the non-ESA variety and just have a pre-load knob to adjust when you switch from 1-up to 2-up, etc.

I'm in the 185lb category and wife is around 115. For me the solo position works well...for sport-riding, I like to crank a bit more pre-load in and go with 1+luggage. 2-Up postion works very well for her & I together with a full load ready for a camping trip.

Yeah, there is no "setup the computer to sense load and baseline sag..." ESA is not intelligent...simply motors tied to a button to give you preload and rebound adjustment. Nothing intelligent at all about it.

For me, it works well, other's hate it with a weird distaste and passion since it's "problematic" and "does nothing". Personally, I believe the people that hate the stock suspenders are probably well above the "average" weight it was setup for. I'm sure I'll get flamed for being in the "I like ESA" camp; probably told I don't know good suspension too.

My Tuono Factory had Ohlins front and rear and I had the dealership help me set it up. (they had an Ohlins certified guy on staff who was a mechanic for the dealer and an amateur racer...the man knew suspension). That was probably the most compliant, confident, sport suspension I've ever ridden. Nothing can beat high-quality, properly setup suspension.
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