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Old 01-24-2013, 12:45 PM   #2551
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If you're 6'-4" I'd get a WR250R or a KTM 350/500.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:34 PM   #2552
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According to the Honda service manual, there's no need for any adjustment.

- Idle speed should be at 1450 rpm

- If not, you must check MIL, SAS, spark plug, crankcase breather, air cleaner, throttle operation, intake air leaks.

- If still not, check IACV, then (if necessary) reset it, after clearing DTC and resetting TP sensor beforehand

Good luck !

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Translate please "after clearing DTC".....does that mean unplug the engine management computer to let it get "stupid"?

do i assume " resetting TP sensor " is a process described somewhere in the manual where they tell you to loosen the TP (Throttle Position) sensor and rotate it to get a prescribed output voltage also specified somewhere in the service manual?
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:05 PM   #2553
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For $379 MSRP, you can now buy a Corbin seat for a 2013 CRF250L black with red thread

just saw a press release on Cycle World website



http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/01/23...rf250l-saddle/

Yeah, I was looking at that last night late. I am getting one for sure.
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:12 PM   #2554
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Yeah, I was looking at that last night late. I am getting one for sure.
I was just going to order one but, so many choices that I am not sure what to order. I may have to call them or something

Do you think a guy should order it with or without the welt ? and does it make it stronger as well ?

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Old 01-24-2013, 03:35 PM   #2555
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Translate please "after clearing DTC".....does that mean unplug the engine management computer to let it get "stupid"?

do i assume " resetting TP sensor " is a process described somewhere in the manual where they tell you to loosen the TP (Throttle Position) sensor and rotate it to get a prescribed output voltage also specified somewhere in the service manual?
To clear the DTC, you must short the DLC

All that .. to say you sould be at last a rocket scientist just to set the idle speed on one of these technichally up-to-date bike

Altrough i also have an idling problem and i got the service manual, im still shy to go into that. Cant neither copy the entire manual to describe procedures.

Maybe i will eventually try the Lost's screw

btw, SAS is secondary Air System, TP sensor is Throttle Position, DTC is Diagnostic Trouble Code, IACV Idle Air Control Valve and MIL is Malfunction Indicator Lamp, DLC is Data Link Connector

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Old 01-24-2013, 03:38 PM   #2556
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For $379 MSRP, you can now buy a Corbin seat for a 2013 CRF250L black with red thread

just saw a press release on Cycle World website



http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/01/23...rf250l-saddle/
Wonder how it compares to the Seat Concept's seat
http://seatconcepts.com/products#!/~...56&id=18216003

I have one of their seats on my KTM and it is a very good seat, for less than 1/2 the price.
I think the seat is my need upgrade on this bike.
Anyone know?
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:56 PM   #2557
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Wonder how it compares to the Seat Concept's seat
http://seatconcepts.com/products#!/~...56&id=18216003

I have one of their seats on my KTM and it is a very good seat, for less than 1/2 the price.
I think the seat is my need upgrade on this bike.
Anyone know?
I bet they are real similar but, I want to keep my Honda seat in tact so ... I just ordered the corbin.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:03 PM   #2558
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Wonder how it compares to the Seat Concept's seat
http://seatconcepts.com/products#!/~...56&id=18216003

I have one of their seats on my KTM and it is a very good seat, for less than 1/2 the price.
I think the seat is my need upgrade on this bike.
Anyone know?
Don't know how the Corbin compares to the Seat Concepts. But I did get a low, carbon fiber red seat from them. This weekend a buddy with an air stapler is gonna get R done for me!

BTW a Black Friday Seat Concepts low cost me $139
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:43 PM   #2559
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To clear the DTC, you must short the DLC

All that .. to say you sould be at last a rocket scientist just to set the idle speed on one of these technichally up-to-date bike

Altrough i also have an idling problem and i got the service manual, im still shy to go into that. Cant neither copy the entire manual to describe procedures.

Maybe i will eventually try the Lost's screw

btw, SAS is secondary Air System, TP sensor is Throttle Position, DTC is Diagnostic Trouble Code, IACV Idle Air Control Valve and MIL is Malfunction Indicator Lamp, DLC is Data Link Connector

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Not sure what's up with the idle adjust being like that. Last 2 street bikes I had could be idle adjusted at a red light, either with a leatherman, or by hand, with a rubber hose attached (factory installed) to the idle screw, both with FI.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:49 PM   #2560
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Don't know how the Corbin compares to the Seat Concepts. But I did get a low, carbon fiber red seat from them. This weekend a buddy with an air stapler is gonna get R done for me!

BTW a Black Friday Seat Concepts low cost me $139
That's a great price
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:19 PM   #2561
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I was just going to order one but, so many choices that I am not sure what to order. I may have to call them or something

Do you think a guy should order it with or without the welt ? and does it make it stronger as well ?

Yeah I was checking out the options too. They dont show how the options effect the seat appearance. I want one just like the picture.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:52 PM   #2562
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To clear the DTC, you must short the DLC

All that .. to say you sould be at last a rocket scientist just to set the idle speed on one of these technichally up-to-date bike

Altrough i also have an idling problem and i got the service manual, im still shy to go into that. Cant neither copy the entire manual to describe procedures.

Maybe i will eventually try the Lost's screw

btw, SAS is secondary Air System, TP sensor is Throttle Position, DTC is Diagnostic Trouble Code, IACV Idle Air Control Valve and MIL is Malfunction Indicator Lamp, DLC is Data Link Connector

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Thanks for the info and descriptions of the "IACV" etc. The fact that there is a "DLC" tells me there is a "device" to talk to the computer. Such a device may not be available to us peons, but dealers should have them. IACV is the new "SAE" correct description for what was called in the 80's (when I was somewhat involved in engine calibration) an "Idle Air bypass Valve". If you've ever owned an '80's era Ford Taurus V6, you learned to hate idle air bypass valves because they would get gummed up with crap from the PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) system, and the engine wouldn't idle for shit!
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:19 PM   #2563
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Yeah I was checking out the options too. They dont show how the options effect the seat appearance. I want one just like the picture.
in the bottom of the article they posted those options. I ordered black carbon vinyl/black carbon/no welt. The welt is the red accent you saw. In my opinion that would wear quick and not practical on a dual purpose machine.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:21 PM   #2564
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Thanks for the info and descriptions of the "IACV" etc. The fact that there is a "DLC" tells me there is a "device" to talk to the computer. Such a device may not be available to us peons, but dealers should have them. IACV is the new "SAE" correct description for what was called in the 80's (when I was somewhat involved in engine calibration) an "Idle Air bypass Valve". If you've ever owned an '80's era Ford Taurus V6, you learned to hate idle air bypass valves because they would get gummed up with crap from the PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) system, and the engine wouldn't idle for shit!
9F715 I have sold lots of those
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:19 PM   #2565
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CRF250L review by Gilerd

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