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Old 04-15-2013, 01:43 PM   #4336
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I realize you need DOT approval. However, I would be remiss if I didn't answer your question for others who don't require DOT approval. I have mounted both the size 120/100-18, D606 rear tire, and the size 110/90-18, D952 rear tire on my Honda XR650L. The D952 tire performs much better, both off road, and on the street. The D952 tire costs much less than the D606. The D952 tire is also much lighter, and wears much longer, since it retains its rounded profile, and the D606 tire squares off as the tread wears down. Besides being much heavier, the D606 rear tire will also raise the saddle height almost 1-inch higher than the D952 rear tire, which is a serious consideration for those with short inseams.

DOT approval doesn't mean a tire performs better on the street. It merely means the manufacturer has paid the fees, and submitted the tire for DOT inspection and approval. If the police won't bother you, you are wise to consider the numerous, excellent options available in tires which are not DOT approved.

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If anyone is actually wise, they will ignore this reckless statement and buy DOT rated tires for a DS bike that will be ridden on public roads.
I highly recommend folks looking for tires look outside this thread as there's a ridiculous amount of Mis-information floating around in here lately.
Spud here regularly says things I think are wrong, but ignore, this last statement is dangerous and I completely disagree. Nothing personal spud, but if you want to run motocross tires on your dirt bikes with top cases and hard mount mirrors, your choice. But to blatantly say things that are wrong and could be very dangerous for folks is where I draw the line.

Anyone that ride on the street, especially for extended periods of time, buy DOT rated tires.



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Old 04-15-2013, 02:17 PM   #4337
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the Power! is alright with the 250L ;-)

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I've been looking into one of these little bikes for some time just been worried about the power since they are a little soft stock. I think with the pipe and programmer I would be happy....
Just pull the O2 sensor and see what happens
And then see what happens next when the clever on board diagnostics tell you that there's a problem with your PGM whatever its called. Google then and discover a few options that will point you in another direction...
Faark the 2 year Warrantee - I'm working on the solution....
Any FI specialists please chirp in - I see theres a few posts up about it on pg 185 or thereabouts
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:39 PM   #4338
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Got my EJK in the mail today. Hard to get excited about it though, riding seems trivial what with all that's going on in Boston today.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:58 PM   #4339
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Got my EJK in the mail today. Hard to get excited about it though, riding seems trivial what with all that's going on in Boston today.
Yes, my nephew ran that, but because of the chaos he couldn't get to the finish line to have his "chip" trigger the time. Had a text from his Dad (my brother) saying he was on the "T" headed to the finish, before news of the explosions. Everybody I know is OK. My daughter works in Cambridge, she said Boston police were performing multiple controlled detonations on secondary devices, WTF!
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:32 PM   #4340
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I'm not 100% sure on this but, If you ever got into an accident and non dot tires were on the bike. Insurance may deny your claim.
And I would think you could maybe even be sued over it.
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:56 PM   #4341
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Yes there website is. http://www.hotcamsinc.com/
After looking at the big picture I have ridden several 250 cc MX 4 stroke bikes and have no complaint on power with them. According to my searching the make around the 28-32 rwhp mark and from what I have seen the 250l is making 24rwhp with pipe programer so if you throw a cam CBR ecu and throttle body at her she should brake into the mid 30's maybe more with some porting. Power will not be a problem
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:18 PM   #4342
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If anyone is actually wise, they will ignore this reckless statement and buy DOT rated tires for a DS bike that will be ridden on public roads.
I highly recommend folks looking for tires look outside this thread as there's a ridiculous amount of Mis-information floating around in here lately.
Spud here regularly says things I think are wrong, but ignore, this last statement is dangerous and I completely disagree. Nothing personal spud, but if you want to run motocross tires on your dirt bikes with top cases and hard mount mirrors, your choice. But to blatantly say things that are wrong and could be very dangerous for folks is where I draw the line.

Anyone that ride on the street, especially for extended periods of time, buy DOT rated tires.



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Are you actually saying you believe a DOT approved, Kenda, K760 tire is safer than a Dunlop D952 tire? Nothing personal, but that’s ridiculous. If DOT approved tires are required in California, or elsewhere, people should install them. However, DOT approved tires are not required for motorcycles in Idaho, and no ever bothers us regarding this matter.

Regarding the other matters, I will follow the example of others before me, and decline to lower myself by responding. Instead, I will follow the advice of George Carlin.

http://standupcomedyportal.com/quotes/491

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

Instead, I’ve gladly awarded you a permanent place on my “ignore list.”

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Old 04-15-2013, 05:35 PM   #4343
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Are you actually saying you believe a DOT approved, Kenda, K760 tire is safer than a Dunlop D952 tire? Nothing personal, but that’s ridiculous. If DOT approved tires are required in California, or elsewhere, people should install them. However, DOT approved tires are not required for motorcycles in Idaho, and no ever bothers us regarding this matter.

Regarding the other matters, I will follow the example of others before me, and decline to lower myself by responding. Instead, I will follow the advice of George Carlin.

http://standupcomedyportal.com/quotes/491

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

Instead, I’ve gladly awarded you a permanent place on my “ignore list.”

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What about tires that are usually fitted to airplanes, they should be OK, right?
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:42 PM   #4344
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Just stick to the closest size to stock. If you squeeze a larger than necessary street tire on the rim, you just end up with a deformed tire profile that can give you funky handling. There's nothing to gain from going to a larger tire.
Ok thanks for the info, I will just stick to stock sizing for now. This is my first street bike, dont know much about street/supermoto geared tires.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:44 PM   #4345
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This site is just fricken crazy .... no wonder I don't come here much anymore.

Sorry I posted anything here .... Should I go back and remove every comment ?
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:35 PM   #4346
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This site is just fricken crazy .... no wonder I don't come here much anymore.

Sorry I posted anything here .... Should I go back and remove every comment ?
No. Every opinion is worthwhile.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:41 PM   #4347
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hang around here for a bit gnath

you will see adv is the corner bar

we don't always get along but we mean well
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:03 PM   #4348
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Thanks guys ... I do appreciate that....

But, I just don't get all the drama and chit around here ...

I truly believe in individual freedoms of choice and for someone to get bashed for posting an opinion ... even if it is wrong .... is just crazy.
and if someone does something just because someone else said it was cool ... is just wrong also.
We are all grown up and can filter out what is needed for ourselves.

I for one got bashed very hard around here as well. Because I was doing a lot of mods and wasting my money according to the high almighty's that know what is best for me and my wallet.
I am very happy with my build and it suits my needs perfectly like no other bike can.
Did I dump a lot of cash on this so called LRP ? Yes I did. Is it a LRP ? No it is not !!!
My bike is quick, nimble and very fast in the woods. It can also handle big jumps, extreme whoops and climb any hill I encounter. It also behaves very well on highways. It corners well and is a pure joy to ride.
This bike was built for me and nobody else and I do not advise anyone to follow my path.

For what it is worth ... here is a list of what I wasted my money on ...

FMF megabomb with the Q4 muffler exhaust system
13/42 sprockets
EJK fuel controller
Highway Dirt Bikes hand Guards with mirrors (also paid extra for black anodized)
Rox 2 inch pivoting risers
ProTaper fat contour bars ... Carmichael bend
ProTaper pillow top grips
Corbin seat
Zeta pivoting levers
Zeta C/S sprocket guard
Folding shift lever
Flatland skid plate
Flatland radiator guard
Yoshimura tail light/fender eliminator kit
Race Tech rear shock
I sent my forks to Race Tech for rebuild with new springs, Gold vales and custom shim stack.
IRC TR8 Battle Rally tires .... DOT by the way
Extra heavy duty race tubes
12 O'Clock labs speedoDRD calibrator
and I am sure I forgot a few more items ...

I spent an extra $125.00 to have my bike completely lubed properly. Suspension linkage, steering stem and wheel bearings etc ...
I also had the bike completely set up by a Pro race mechanic.

I am also going to dump another $500.00 or so to get a Scotts sub mounted steering damper fabricated/installed

For what it is worth ... DOT does not mean it is a better tire. It means it has been tested and approved by the Department Of Transportation.
There are a lot of tires that can pass this test that have not spent the money to become DOT certified.
Check your local laws and decide for yourself.

I don't know Spud personally but, his posts have always been helpful to me.

Build your bike as you see fit and enjoy your ride !!!

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Old 04-16-2013, 12:56 AM   #4349
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It is all too easy to attack people's opinions when on the "interweb". We run "non-dot" tires on our work bikes and ride on sealed roads all the time. No issues because we train our staff on the hazards of riding knobbies on the road. Simple- run any tire (tyre) you want, just understand the limitations. Now.... Winter is approaching here in NZ, anyone have a recommendation on a good tire (tyre) for on-off road riding? Ha-Ha-Ha!!!
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:08 AM   #4350
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Oh, forgot to mention- Gnath has done what I dream to do with my crf250l, I am just too poor to do all the mods! Maybe if I stop drinking beer I can get the full FMF exhaust, no- that's just crazy talk. There must be another way...
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