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Old 04-15-2013, 12:13 PM   #4336
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So between the D606, and the D952, which would you say is better in mud? Street? I ride to where I want to play, no trailer/trucking.

Edit:Oops, forgetting the D952 not DOT.
If you aren't regularly clawing your way up rocky slopes, give the Kenda K760 tire a try. It doesn't cost much, and it might prove to be an excellent tire for your riding. If you start to chunk knobs, you can always switch to another tire the next time. The K760 tire performs superbly in the mud, and also performs remarkably well on pavement.

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Old 04-15-2013, 12:24 PM   #4337
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I've been looking into one of these little bikes for some time just been worried about the power since they are a little soft stock. I think with the pipe and programmer I would be happy but just out of curiosity I emailed hot cam about cams for this bike and hear is the reply I got.

Thank you for contacting us and for your interest in our camshafts. Currently our engineers are considering developing a cam for the CRF 250L, but if one is going to be developed it will not be available for a few months.
Interesting, any company website?
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:27 PM   #4338
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I realize you need DOT approval. However, I would be remiss if I didn't answer your question for others who don't require DOT approval. I have mounted both the size 120/100-18, D606 rear tire, and the size 110/90-18, D952 rear tire on my Honda XR650L. The D952 tire performs much better, both off road, and on the street. The D952 tire costs much less than the D606. The D952 tire is also much lighter, and wears much longer, since it retains its rounded profile, and the D606 tire squares off as the tread wears down. Besides being much heavier, the D606 rear tire will also raise the saddle height almost 1-inch higher than the D952 rear tire, which is a serious consideration for those with short inseams.

DOT approval doesn't mean a tire performs better on the street. It merely means the manufacturer has paid the fees, and submitted the tire for DOT inspection and approval. If the police won't bother you, you are wise to consider the numerous, excellent options available in tires which are not DOT approved.

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Hmmmmm, searching now: http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/motorcycle-equipment/
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:43 PM   #4339
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I realize you need DOT approval. However, I would be remiss if I didn't answer your question for others who don't require DOT approval. I have mounted both the size 120/100-18, D606 rear tire, and the size 110/90-18, D952 rear tire on my Honda XR650L. The D952 tire performs much better, both off road, and on the street. The D952 tire costs much less than the D606. The D952 tire is also much lighter, and wears much longer, since it retains its rounded profile, and the D606 tire squares off as the tread wears down. Besides being much heavier, the D606 rear tire will also raise the saddle height almost 1-inch higher than the D952 rear tire, which is a serious consideration for those with short inseams.

DOT approval doesn't mean a tire performs better on the street. It merely means the manufacturer has paid the fees, and submitted the tire for DOT inspection and approval. If the police won't bother you, you are wise to consider the numerous, excellent options available in tires which are not DOT approved.

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If anyone is actually wise, they will ignore this reckless statement and buy DOT rated tires for a DS bike that will be ridden on public roads.
I highly recommend folks looking for tires look outside this thread as there's a ridiculous amount of Mis-information floating around in here lately.
Spud here regularly says things I think are wrong, but ignore, this last statement is dangerous and I completely disagree. Nothing personal spud, but if you want to run motocross tires on your dirt bikes with top cases and hard mount mirrors, your choice. But to blatantly say things that are wrong and could be very dangerous for folks is where I draw the line.

Anyone that ride on the street, especially for extended periods of time, buy DOT rated tires.



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Old 04-15-2013, 01:17 PM   #4340
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the Power! is alright with the 250L ;-)

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I've been looking into one of these little bikes for some time just been worried about the power since they are a little soft stock. I think with the pipe and programmer I would be happy....
Just pull the O2 sensor and see what happens
And then see what happens next when the clever on board diagnostics tell you that there's a problem with your PGM whatever its called. Google then and discover a few options that will point you in another direction...
Faark the 2 year Warrantee - I'm working on the solution....
Any FI specialists please chirp in - I see theres a few posts up about it on pg 185 or thereabouts
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:39 PM   #4341
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Got my EJK in the mail today. Hard to get excited about it though, riding seems trivial what with all that's going on in Boston today.
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:58 PM   #4342
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Got my EJK in the mail today. Hard to get excited about it though, riding seems trivial what with all that's going on in Boston today.
Yes, my nephew ran that, but because of the chaos he couldn't get to the finish line to have his "chip" trigger the time. Had a text from his Dad (my brother) saying he was on the "T" headed to the finish, before news of the explosions. Everybody I know is OK. My daughter works in Cambridge, she said Boston police were performing multiple controlled detonations on secondary devices, WTF!
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:32 PM   #4343
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I'm not 100% sure on this but, If you ever got into an accident and non dot tires were on the bike. Insurance may deny your claim.
And I would think you could maybe even be sued over it.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:56 PM   #4344
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Yes there website is. http://www.hotcamsinc.com/
After looking at the big picture I have ridden several 250 cc MX 4 stroke bikes and have no complaint on power with them. According to my searching the make around the 28-32 rwhp mark and from what I have seen the 250l is making 24rwhp with pipe programer so if you throw a cam CBR ecu and throttle body at her she should brake into the mid 30's maybe more with some porting. Power will not be a problem
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:18 PM   #4345
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If anyone is actually wise, they will ignore this reckless statement and buy DOT rated tires for a DS bike that will be ridden on public roads.
I highly recommend folks looking for tires look outside this thread as there's a ridiculous amount of Mis-information floating around in here lately.
Spud here regularly says things I think are wrong, but ignore, this last statement is dangerous and I completely disagree. Nothing personal spud, but if you want to run motocross tires on your dirt bikes with top cases and hard mount mirrors, your choice. But to blatantly say things that are wrong and could be very dangerous for folks is where I draw the line.

Anyone that ride on the street, especially for extended periods of time, buy DOT rated tires.



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Are you actually saying you believe a DOT approved, Kenda, K760 tire is safer than a Dunlop D952 tire? Nothing personal, but that’s ridiculous. If DOT approved tires are required in California, or elsewhere, people should install them. However, DOT approved tires are not required for motorcycles in Idaho, and no ever bothers us regarding this matter.

Regarding the other matters, I will follow the example of others before me, and decline to lower myself by responding. Instead, I will follow the advice of George Carlin.

http://standupcomedyportal.com/quotes/491

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

Instead, I’ve gladly awarded you a permanent place on my “ignore list.”

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Old 04-15-2013, 04:35 PM   #4346
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Are you actually saying you believe a DOT approved, Kenda, K760 tire is safer than a Dunlop D952 tire? Nothing personal, but that’s ridiculous. If DOT approved tires are required in California, or elsewhere, people should install them. However, DOT approved tires are not required for motorcycles in Idaho, and no ever bothers us regarding this matter.

Regarding the other matters, I will follow the example of others before me, and decline to lower myself by responding. Instead, I will follow the advice of George Carlin.

http://standupcomedyportal.com/quotes/491

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

Instead, I’ve gladly awarded you a permanent place on my “ignore list.”

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What about tires that are usually fitted to airplanes, they should be OK, right?
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:42 PM   #4347
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Just stick to the closest size to stock. If you squeeze a larger than necessary street tire on the rim, you just end up with a deformed tire profile that can give you funky handling. There's nothing to gain from going to a larger tire.
Ok thanks for the info, I will just stick to stock sizing for now. This is my first street bike, dont know much about street/supermoto geared tires.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:44 PM   #4348
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This site is just fricken crazy .... no wonder I don't come here much anymore.

Sorry I posted anything here .... Should I go back and remove every comment ?
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:35 PM   #4349
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This site is just fricken crazy .... no wonder I don't come here much anymore.

Sorry I posted anything here .... Should I go back and remove every comment ?
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:41 PM   #4350
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hang around here for a bit gnath

you will see adv is the corner bar

we don't always get along but we mean well
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