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Old 04-27-2013, 01:03 PM   #4501
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Been dredging all sorts of forums including this esteemed bunch of social misfits for days now in the hope of finding information where the AIT sensor is located on the 250L. Anyone know?
Have fitted an on - off switch to the O2 sensor tonight, will test tomorrow to see what error codes come up. Thinking that a diode or resistor in line with the open loop position may work to sort the error codes. Call it African bush mechanics on the cheap.
BT original topic - where is the AIT on the 250L?

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Old 04-27-2013, 01:40 PM   #4502
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The crem-de-la-crem chain tool from Motion Pro is on sale here: http://store.mm411.com/index.cfm?fus...&ParentCat=195

$78..not inexpensive...not "cheap" if it saves your ass in the middle of nowhere when your chain needs serious repair, it's worth 5x that. BUT...play with it, learn how to use it....otherwise it's worthless.
Thanks for the link. I got it from Amazon Prime. $55.00 . Looks simple enough. It will go into my survival kit.
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:44 PM   #4503
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Thanks for the link. I got it from Amazon Prime. $55.00 . Looks simple enough. It will go into my survival kit.
That's a sweet frikkin deal!! Except it's $62.28 now on Amazon Prime...still a frikkin deal
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:16 PM   #4504
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Been dredging all sorts of forums including this esteemed bunch of social misfits for days now in the hope of finding information where the AIT sensor is located on the 250L. Anyone know?
Have fitted an on - off switch to the O2 sensor tonight, will test tomorrow to see what error codes come up. Thinking that a diode or resistor in line with the open loop position may work to sort the error codes. Call it African bush mechanics on the cheap.
BT original topic - where is the AIT on the 250L?
Looks like it's in #1 on this: http://www.hondapartsnation.com/oemp.../throttle-body

Helm manual says IAT sensor (not AIT) has two wires going to it, grey/blue, green/white. This trouble shooting section is rather complicated (to me), not totally sure this is what you actually need. Not messed with this stuff myself. Hope this helps?
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:43 PM   #4505
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That's a sweet frikkin deal!! Except it's $62.28 now on Amazon Prime...still a frikkin deal
I got a 10% discount at checkout for some reason.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:52 PM   #4506
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Been dredging all sorts of forums including this esteemed bunch of social misfits for days now in the hope of finding information where the AIT sensor is located on the 250L. Anyone know?
Have fitted an on - off switch to the O2 sensor tonight, will test tomorrow to see what error codes come up. Thinking that a diode or resistor in line with the open loop position may work to sort the error codes. Call it African bush mechanics on the cheap.
BT original topic - where is the AIT on the 250L?
What error Code ????
I have my Lamda Probe disconected too and there is no Trouble Indication on the dash .
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:42 PM   #4507
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Anybody know of a place I can look at dyno comparisons for different mods on the 250l? Or at least a place that compares exhausts?

I just bought the Q4 megabomb combo and I dont think I like the Q4. Its a great pipe and many people tell me they think its a 450 but Id like to hear what some other pipes sound like. I was looking at the yosh but saw one video where it looked very ugly on the bike. I like to looks of the big gun evoR but have a feeling it doesnt have the best power and the 4.1 is an option also

Youtube videos suck for sound comparisons
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:10 AM   #4508
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What error Code ????
I have my Lamda Probe disconected too and there is no Trouble Indication on the dash .
It usually takes between 20 and 40km before the PGM FI light in the console comes on when caning the bike like riding between 115 and 125 km/h. Stop along the side of the road, switch off, switch engine back on again and the console light is out.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:47 AM   #4509
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It usually takes between 20 and 40km before the PGM FI light in the console comes on when caning the bike like riding between 115 and 125 km/h. Stop along the side of the road, switch off, switch engine back on again and the console light is out.

I never see that light on
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:01 AM   #4510
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I never see that light on
Might be different models in different parts of the world, I'm in S.Africa. There's quiete a bit of information on the interwebs about Honda's throwing error codes when the O2 thingy is disconnected. Not an issue though since I ran the (single strand) O2 wire over a simple on off switch. The long term benefits of this hack are still to be determined......
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:12 AM   #4511
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Just ordered a D606 120/90-18 from motorcyclesuperstore, free shipping, enter discount code M159-Dunlop-5%, for $88.34. The weather has been so good, my original rear will be toast soon. Sale ends 4/30/13 11:59 PM.

edit: They charged me for shipping, WTF. Sent an inquiry, we'll see.

another edit: They responded that the discount dropped me below the free shipping amount, but are fixing it, so it does ship free.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:13 PM   #4512
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I am looking to sell my 2013 Honda CRF 250l dual sport. I have installed new sprockets changing the gearing from 14/40 (stock) to 13/42. I have installed an FMF Powercore 4 muffler on it. I have installed new handlebar grips. I have installed a yoshimura fender eliminating kit with LED light. This bike has less then 1,000 miles on it. It is fuel injected, chain driven, and electric start (so no struggling with kick starting) The bike has been dropped a few times but no major damage was done just minor scratches that are typical when riding off road. It still looks clean and rides better then stock because of the modifications. The only reason I am looking to sell this bike is to buy a touring bike for my wife and I, otherwise I would keep it. Please email me if you are interested. I am not looking to make money off of this bike, just to break even. I will include a helmet, gloves, honda book bag, a rear luggage rack, all the original parts, and a motorcycle cover if purchased. Email me at kmjinks@yahoo.com or call me 804-477-5446.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:45 PM   #4513
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I am looking to sell my 2013 Honda CRF 250l dual sport. I have installed new sprockets changing the gearing from 14/40 (stock) to 13/42. I have installed an FMF Powercore 4 muffler on it. I have installed new handlebar grips. I have installed a yoshimura fender eliminating kit with LED light. This bike has less then 1,000 miles on it. It is fuel injected, chain driven, and electric start (so no struggling with kick starting) The bike has been dropped a few times but no major damage was done just minor scratches that are typical when riding off road. It still looks clean and rides better then stock because of the modifications. The only reason I am looking to sell this bike is to buy a touring bike for my wife and I, otherwise I would keep it. Please email me if you are interested. I am not looking to make money off of this bike, just to break even. I will include a helmet, gloves, honda book bag, a rear luggage rack, all the original parts, and a motorcycle cover if purchased. Email me at kmjinks@yahoo.com or call me 804-477-5446.
Post it on the minimalist thread, everybody here's got one: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201349
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Post it on the minimalist thread, everybody here's got one: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201349
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:43 PM   #4515
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Anybody know of a place I can look at dyno comparisons for different mods on the 250l? Or at least a place that compares exhausts?

I just bought the Q4 megabomb combo and I dont think I like the Q4. Its a great pipe and many people tell me they think its a 450 but Id like to hear what some other pipes sound like. I was looking at the yosh but saw one video where it looked very ugly on the bike. I like to looks of the big gun evoR but have a feeling it doesnt have the best power and the 4.1 is an option also

Youtube videos suck for sound comparisons


Here's the graph from our bike at Bazzaz both colors with the fuel controller, RED with yoshi exhaust, BLUE with stock exhaust.
It pretty much shows what the tuner told me and I felt - there's very little gain from just a pipe, actually with stock exhaust the bike makes more usable torque and pulls harder in RPM ranges that I'll actually be riding in, 5-7000 RPM's.
A few extra HP @ 9000-10,000 RPM doesn't really help much IMHO, who rides with the bike completely wound out?, it's all about low/mid range torque/power, for us at least.
I liked the way the Yoshi looked and would welcome the little weight savings, but since it actually took away from the power range that interests us and was a bit loud we kept the OEM.
Seems like Honda might have actually known with what they are doing, making the bike better for trail riding with the OEM exhaust. Changing the back pressure and tuning the engine to perform more like the CBR with higher HP output isn't necessarily going to be an improvement for DS use.

Hope this graph help figure out what you want.













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Generally folks can make more money by putting their bikes back to stock and selling the extra parts separately.
50 or even 25 cents on the dollar or less the stuff adds value to the bike, unless you find the perfect buyer who wants those exact mods. I bet there's plenty of folks in here that would buy your extras at a fair used price.

You might want to just put an ad in BIkes section of the Flea Market here on ADV, that's where people looking to buy bikes are looking usually and the mods will probably delete your FS posts in these Bike forums.


Good luck with your sale and future bike, got to keep the wife happy and 2 up touring can be lots of fun too.
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