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Old 05-07-2013, 07:17 PM   #4666
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MSR shifter

I posted pics of the msr on Lost's crf 250l adventure thread..
The shifter is super flexible Maybe too soft but that could have saved me some $ already as I have bent it bad twice and it bends right back..
U can see marks from my crescent wrenches on it to straighten it..
Again really flexible so just back into place..it is aluminum tho.
I recommend it.
I didn't choose the shifter by part #,I chose it by fit.
Look where the shifter posted above ends using honda lettering as a gauge..
One comes up to the n and the other doesn't even touch the lettering..little different.
I only posted the part# I case someone liked the fit themselves.
Oh ya and that's canadian$ so they are probably 15 in the u.s.



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Old 05-07-2013, 07:38 PM   #4667
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Pin style

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I pretty sure you can just buy a new tip. And quite possibly you just happened to get a defective one.
By the looks of that pic it didn't even bend the lever
Pin style is weak on those side mount tips..
No structure
Top pins are mounted through strong cross bracing.


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Old 05-07-2013, 07:38 PM   #4668
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Nice to see pics of bikes that aren't clean, or pretty any more, that's they are made for!
Hows this for dirty, I went out to the "lake" the other day

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Old 05-07-2013, 07:51 PM   #4669
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Hows this for dirty, I went out to the "lake" the other day

Nice! Looks like you should have a goldfish swimming around in the bottom 1/3rd of your headlight.
Awesome.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:19 AM   #4670
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First bike.

Hey yall been stalking now for months and finally bought my first bike 3 days ago. Absolutely love it. Only have some cyca hand guards and about 80 miles on it now but plan on doing some big trips and adding a ton of goodies.


Best of all i live in great country for dual sportin
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:52 AM   #4671
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Hi mate, linkages being the dog bones right? Also, how long a job is it getting to the steering bearings...easy access or does the whole front end have to come apart?

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Yup, dog bones are part of the linkages- I have not done the steering bearings yet...but I tried to watch our mechanic lubing the crf250l we have at work. Sadly I missed most of the procedure! He reckoned it would take me a bit over an hour and it was "easy". Now I just need to have him give me the "step by step" instructions. Once I know how to do it I will report back...
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:12 AM   #4672
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Hows this for dirty, I went out to the "lake" the other day

Nice!
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:15 AM   #4673
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Yup, dog bones are part of the linkages- I have not done the steering bearings yet...but I tried to watch our mechanic lubing the crf250l we have at work. Sadly I missed most of the procedure! He reckoned it would take me a bit over an hour and it was "easy". Now I just need to have him give me the "step by step" instructions. Once I know how to do it I will report back...
Great, thanks for the reply and look forward to further updates on the steering bearings.

I'm going to take mine in for its 1000km first service over the weekend, they said I would have leave it overnight if I want the swingarm/linkages checked due to a heavy workload (lots of summer riders here) so I might have a crack myself. I've got a tube of SKF regular 'auto' grease, which I'm guessing is ok to use? Also, how important is it getting the right torque adjustment...is a guesstimated tightness sufficient?

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Old 05-08-2013, 02:23 AM   #4674
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First tank of gas since the 13t & the speedo DRD, surprised to get 75 mpg. That was with almost no dirt, though. Then again, I never had the Garmin on the bike when it had the 14t on, and I think the Brit guy posted that it is way off stock, which seems to make sense. I was averaging 70 when not doing much dirt before the gear swap, but depending on how I was riding, it was all over the place. I'm at 2,075 miles now.
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:30 AM   #4675
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Great, thanks for the reply and look forward to further updates on the steering bearings.

I'm going to take mine in for its 1000km first service over the weekend, they said I would have leave it overnight if I want the swingarm/linkages checked due to a heavy workload (lots of summer riders here) so I might have a crack myself. I've got a tube of SKF regular 'auto' grease, which I'm guessing is ok to use? Also, how important is it getting the right torque adjustment...is a guesstimated tightness sufficient?

Cheers
They did my oil/filter after I rode it in, but did the valve check the next day when it was cold. Each time you do work yourself, you are saving money, I would invest in a torque wrench. Shop labor is $.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:24 AM   #4676
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Flatland racing or Emperor racing skid plate

Emperor Racing is about 39$ more but seems a better product.

For those who own either what is the consensus?
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:49 AM   #4677
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Emperor Racing is about 39$ more but seems a better product.

For those who own either what is the consensus?
I have the Flatland but it doesn't cover the cooling hose/connection, on the right side of the bike, well enough for my liking. Here's a link to a pic of mine in Lost's Adventure Traveling thread.
http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....88&postcount=8

I don't remember what the Emperor skidplate looks like but Lost's (and many other folks have it too) Ricochet covers the water pump connection very well. Here's a link to Lost's post of his Ricochet.
http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....38&postcount=3

While you're protecting things, Flatland radiator guard is a good one

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Old 05-08-2013, 06:00 AM   #4678
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Thumb CRF-250L Gearing Thoughts

We pretty much universally agree that the stock gearing is TALL. It's geared perfectly for doing 65-70 with good fuel economy in 6th. But, who does long periods of 65-70 on a bike like this?

From my riding, here's how I feel about the rev band at cruising speed (5th/6th gear):

4-5000: can lug under load, but usually cruises ok.
5-7000: smooth, good power. This it the meat of the torque curve. This is where I like to ride.
7-8000: Still reasonable to ride for a long time, but a bit buzzy. If there's a higher gear available, I'll upshift instead of cruising at these revs.
8000+: acceleration, passing, etc. only. It's pretty harsh and buzzy up there. Plus, power drops off hard after 9k.

Here's what stock gearing looks like in 5th and 6th:

Code:
	5	6
RPM	1.115	0.963
3000	25.5	29.5
3500	29.8	34.5
4000	34.0	39.4
4500	38.3	44.3
5000	42.5	49.2
5500	46.8	54.1
6000	51.0	59.1
6500	55.3	64.0
7000	59.5	68.9
7500	63.8	73.8
8000	68.0	78.7
8500	72.3	83.7
9000	76.5	88.6
9500	80.8	93.5
10000	85.0	98.4
10500	89.3	103.4
As you can see, 5th is pretty good for most riding. Going 13/42 or 13/43 lets you keep the stock chain, and puts 6th gear down to where the stock 5th was. If you do lots of 60+ riding, one of those combos should be great. Cruising at 70+ takes a hit, but 70mph flat feels just fine to me.

13x42, 13% reduction from stock: (13x43 is 16%)
Code:
	5	6
RPM	1.115	0.963
3000	22.6	26.1
3500	26.3	30.5
4000	30.1	34.8
4500	33.8	39.2
5000	37.6	43.5
5500	41.4	47.9
6000	45.1	52.2
6500	48.9	56.6
7000	52.6	60.9
7500	56.4	65.3
8000	60.1	69.6
8500	63.9	74.0
9000	67.7	78.3
9500	71.4	82.7
10000	75.2	87.1
10500	78.9	91.4
Many people here don't use the bike for commuting (like I do), and if they can buzz to the trails and back, that's plenty. For them, getting a new chain and a 48t makes a lot of sense. By adding two links, you can run 14x48 and put the axle at the stock location. This leaves 60mph as a very comfy cruising speed, but makes 70mph 8500rpm, which I consider unbearable. The sweet spot is 50-55mph in 6th, which for many people is just perfect - they never go over 55mph for any significant length of time anyway.

14x48, 20% reduction from stock:

Code:
	5	6
RPM	1.115	0.963
3000	21.3	24.6
3500	24.8	28.7
4000	28.3	32.8
4500	31.9	36.9
5000	35.4	41.0
5500	39.0	45.1
6000	42.5	49.2
6500	46.0	53.3
7000	49.6	57.4
7500	53.1	61.5
8000	56.7	65.6
8500	60.2	69.7
9000	63.8	73.8
9500	67.3	77.9
10000	70.8	82.0
10500	74.4	86.1
Finally, the most aggressive off-road option, 13x48. This also needs two links. What's nice is that once you have the 48t rear (and have removed the chain guide to make it fit), you'll be able to swap between 13t, 14t, and 15t front sprockets without swapping chains. 15x48 is essentially the same gearing as 13x42, so you can switch from 13x48 rock-crawler gearing to 15x48 and cruise the highway at 70mph with just 4 bolts and a chain tension adjustment.

Here's 13x48, 29% lower than stock. This pretty much maxes out at 55mph, with 40-50 the sweet cruising speed.

Code:
	5	6
RPM	1.115	0.963
3000	19.7	22.9
3500	23.0	26.7
4000	26.3	30.5
4500	29.6	34.3
5000	32.9	38.1
5500	36.2	41.9
6000	39.5	45.7
6500	42.8	49.5
7000	46.0	53.3
7500	49.3	57.1
8000	52.6	60.9
8500	55.9	64.7
9000	59.2	68.6
9500	62.5	72.4
10000	65.8	76.2
10500	69.1	80.0
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:02 AM   #4679
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Flatland or Emperor Bash plate

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Emperor Racing is about 39$ more but seems a better product.

For those who own either what is the consensus?
I have Flatland. I agree RH hose connection protection could be better, also it could be longer underneath, and fit to the two front bolts could be better. At least access to the oil drain plug is better than stock, especially after going to the magnetic drain plug with the M14 hex instead of the 12.
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:08 AM   #4680
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CRF-250L Gearing Thoughts

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Nice buncha math. If you're a car guy or a drag racer, it's worth it to add to those charts the "equivalent" car axle ratio...like 15/45 = 3.00 (45/15=3)
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