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Old 11-25-2012, 08:26 AM   #1081
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Stock Tool Kit

I just picked up a CRF250L and while going through the bike I was surprised to find that the tool kit consisted of only two hex wrenches and a fuse puller. Is this what everyone else got in their stock tool kit? Or did the dealer forgot to include the whole tool kit with mine?
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:28 AM   #1082
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yes sir!

haha

im taking the msf class this week/weekend so i can get my lic.

i cant really commute with the bike(once i get it) since my commute is like 30 miles one way from santee to descanso and its all up hill one way and its a big climb in elevation. but i can throw the bike in the tacoma and then ride from my yard to local trails.
Small world haha. I will be getting my license soon. The bike is a blast though for sure. I need to take it in for the first servicing.


I received the same tool kit as you. It is pretty pathetic
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:35 AM   #1083
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CRFL Long Distance ADV riding?

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I own a 09 CRFM for now, and it suits me nicely; but with reports that the CRFL will cruise along nicely at 60mph.... it would be on a different planet to the M. I would love to go to a dealership and actually look at a 250L, but there aren't many Honda dealerships in Afghanistan!

After reading the thread thoroughly, I am beginning to think this is the sort of bike (albeit with a new seat, windscreen... etc) that could take someone a very long way from home. When I try to talk myself out of buying a 250L, I remember all of the ADV riding that takes place on 125's and smaller. Have I gone completely mad?
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:39 AM   #1084
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Thank you for the info. I'm looking for the least amount of rise but i don't want the width from clamp to clamp to be any bigger. I don't know if highway dirt bikes can custom make top mount widths. The adapters I see move the top clamp bolts over slighty. Like the pro taper ones
The Pro Tapers give about a 1" rise, and you can either mount them to widen the space between the clamps or narrow the space. lots of options with them.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:05 AM   #1085
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New to the forum!

I own a 09 CRFM for now, and it suits me nicely; but with reports that the CRFL will cruise along nicely at 60mph.... it would be on a different planet to the M. I would love to go to a dealership and actually look at a 250L, but there aren't many Honda dealerships in Afghanistan!

After reading the thread thoroughly, I am beginning to think this is the sort of bike (albeit with a new seat, windscreen... etc) that could take someone a very long way from home. When I try to talk myself out of buying a 250L, I remember all of the ADV riding that takes place on 125's and smaller. Have I gone completely mad?
No you are not mad. I was thinking the same....!
Me and my better half are going to make a two year RTW trip starting next year.
We have two big bikes ready to go (transalp and africatwin), but are seriously considering going light with the CRF.
I like the fuel economy and the long service intervals...
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:58 AM   #1086
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I just picked up a CRF250L and while going through the bike I was surprised to find that the tool kit consisted of only two hex wrenches and a fuse puller. Is this what everyone else got in their stock tool kit? Or did the dealer forgot to include the whole tool kit with mine?
Nope, your dealer didn't slight you. Honda included that same tool kit here in MO also. When I was in the process of swapping out front sprockets on mine, I asked on here what size the rear axle nut was. A member from Canada replied that most of the tools required for the swap were included in the toolkit. So, obviously the toolkit is included on Canadian sold bikes but two allen wrenches and a fuse puller wasn't gonna cut it here for me! So I guess a toolkit is included in some places, but apparently not in the USA. I guess that's part of why the bike's retail price is only $4499. They had to cut corners somewhere!
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:01 PM   #1087
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No you are not mad. I was thinking the same....!
Me and my better half are going to make a two year RTW trip starting next year.
We have two big bikes ready to go (transalp and africatwin), but are seriously considering going light with the CRF.
I like the fuel economy and the long service intervals...
Same here, I replaced my overweight KLR650 with the CRF, and after 600+ miles am looking at a short windshield and better seat for travelling. I've already bought Dirtbagz for it, but may end up with something larger later. I'm thinking for the kind of travelling I LIKE to do (old US Highways) it goes plenty fast, after a pipe and fuel controller it should be as good as the KLR was IMHO......then again, I'm an "old guy"
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:47 PM   #1088
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I experienced the 250L yesterday for the 1st time. another rider brought one on a particulary rocky ride & the 1st time I picked it up for him I could not believe how stinkin heavy that thing was. It's much harder to pick up than my 600. The second thing I noticed was the HUGE gap between 1st & second. I upshifted to second on a mild rocky up hill & it would not pull second, I had to scream 1st all the way up.
The motor was smooth, I can see this being an OK commuter, but it's a poor excuse for a trail bike. Trim 75 pounds off, fix the gear ratios, add 6th gear & add some dampening to the forks & it could be an OK bike. WTF was Honda thinking?

BTW I rode a 230L a few years ago & thought it was a ball to trail ride on, I'm sure it would not cruise down the hwy as well, but it was far superior to the 250L on trails.
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:18 PM   #1089
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BTW I rode a 230L a few years ago & thought it was a ball to trail ride on, I'm sure it would not cruise down the hwy as well, but it was far superior to the 250L on trails.
I had a CRF230F a few years ago, which I believe is the non-street legal version of the 230L... and pretty much the same bike. I haven't ridden a new 250L yet, but I find it hard to believe that the older 230L would be a superior trail bike. I'm sure some new 250L owners who've also owned 230's will pipe in and comment, but I just can't believe the NEW bike would be inferior to the old air cooled bike.
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:35 PM   #1090
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I experienced the 250L yesterday for the 1st time. another rider brought one on a particulary rocky ride & the 1st time I picked it up for him I could not believe how stinkin heavy that thing was. It's much harder to pick up than my 600. The second thing I noticed was the HUGE gap between 1st & second. I upshifted to second on a mild rocky up hill & it would not pull second, I had to scream 1st all the way up.
The motor was smooth, I can see this being an OK commuter, but it's a poor excuse for a trail bike. Trim 75 pounds off, fix the gear ratios, add 6th gear & add some dampening to the forks & it could be an OK bike. WTF was Honda thinking?

BTW I rode a 230L a few years ago & thought it was a ball to trail ride on, I'm sure it would not cruise down the hwy as well, but it was far superior to the 250L on trails.
Umm ... mine has a sixth gear.
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:42 PM   #1091
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The 230L I rode was street legal & was a cool little bike to explore on. I was very disappointed that the 250L is an absolute pig. After riding a WRR & thinking it was a fun little exploration bike I was hoping Honda would do it one better.They did not. A 250 this size should not weigh more than 250lbs full of fuel, this thing had to weigh 325 plus pounds.

I picked it up several times yesterday for the guy that was riding it. I rode it up & down several very rocky sections & like I said, I'm sure it would be a neat little commuter, but it weighs a ton. The WRR I rode a while back was a far superior bike in every way. I may even buy one for a putt, putt explorer. I'm not trying to diss anyone, I was just looking for a place to give an honest evaluation & found this thread.
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:45 PM   #1092
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I experienced the 250L yesterday for the 1st time. another rider brought one on a particulary rocky ride & the 1st time I picked it up for him I could not believe how stinkin heavy that thing was. It's much harder to pick up than my 600. The second thing I noticed was the HUGE gap between 1st & second. I upshifted to second on a mild rocky up hill & it would not pull second, I had to scream 1st all the way up.
The motor was smooth, I can see this being an OK commuter, but it's a poor excuse for a trail bike. Trim 75 pounds off, fix the gear ratios, add 6th gear & add some dampening to the forks & it could be an OK bike. WTF was Honda thinking?

BTW I rode a 230L a few years ago & thought it was a ball to trail ride on, I'm sure it would not cruise down the hwy as well, but it was far superior to the 250L on trails.
Its a six speed bike . You are doing it wrong . You can buy a KTM for $9500 and achieve what you want , but for people who just want to ride , this bike works very well .
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:59 PM   #1093
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I guess i counted wrong, I was so disgusted with the bike at that point I was not paying much attention, For the money the WRR is a much more capable machine. I honestly was hoping it'd be better, I've always been a Honda fan, but the sheer weight of this little piggy ruins it. The WRR is no lightweight, but it did not feel anywhere near this top heavy.& the suspension was decent.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:21 PM   #1094
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I guess i counted wrong, I was so disgusted with the bike at that point I was not paying much attention, For the money the WRR is a much more capable machine. I honestly was hoping it'd be better, I've always been a Honda fan, but the sheer weight of this little piggy ruins it. The WRR is no lightweight, but it did not feel anywhere near this top heavy.& the suspension was decent.
Its a dualsport ,from the big four , they seem to all weight around 300lbs.
Also , its $4500 ! Not $6500 like the WRR or $9500 like a KTM. People are not buying these to race , just ride for fun . You will be disappointed if you expect anything else . Keep in mind that the service intervals and repair costs are pennies on the dollar for the CRF . Buy a kickstand bolt for a KTM , $15 ! I think its made from platinum.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:37 PM   #1095
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Its a dualsport ,from the big four , they seem to all weight around 300lbs.
Also , its $4500 ! Not $6500 like the WRR or $9500 like a KTM. People are not buying these to race , just ride for fun . You will be disappointed if you expect anything else . Keep in mind that the service intervals and repair costs are pennies on the dollar for the CRF . Buy a kickstand bolt for a KTM , $15 ! I think its made from platinum.

I was not comparing it to my KTM or any type of race bike, I was comparing it to the many japanese dualsports I have owned & ridden in the past. There happened to be an air cooled CRF230L on this same ride, It is a nice little light weight trail bike, I'm sure the 250 would be more roadworthy, but there was no comparison to the two once the pavement ends.
Park an old school air cooled 230L next to a 250L and I'd pick the 230L for a trail ride anytime. Pavement commute approaching hwy speeds & I'm sure the 250 would be a better choice. If the Yamaha is $2k more, it's worth every penny, but from the prices I've seen it's only ~$1200 more.
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